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gar fla
Posts: 148
(6/27/2004 2:49:43 AM)
| Sudden media silence of Fahrenheit 9-11?
I'm only starting a new thread because my MSN TV is having serious delays in scrolling down the original one, not to even mention attempting to post a reply........
Anyway, I've been home most of today and watched as much of the news networks as possible. I haven't yet seen any mention of this movie. Now obviously, I couldn't have watched every bit of all their entire broadcasts but something doesn't seem right that Fahrenheit 9-11 and reaction to it's first day of release hasn't made the headlines of the day?
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Swedishoo
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(6/27/2004 2:58:53 AM)
| Re: Sudden media silence of Fahrenheit 9-11?
I noticed that too. In the movie he shows how the media does what they're told to. You know, the more I think about this stuff, the more I realize how as time goes by, more and more people are becoming complacent.
I also read somewhere where Bush advisors are saying to play down the movie.
Did you get to read my post on my fahrenheit 9/11 experience? If you can't go to that thread, let me know here and I'll post it here too.
Christy
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gar fla
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(6/27/2004 3:15:51 AM)
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Hi Christy, I did get to read your post but it took about a half hour to scroll through the entire thing! I attempted to start a reply and my words were delayed too much in showing up on my screen. I was thrilled with your observations and I can now see why the shitty media is giving us the silent treatment. I just knew that the attention this movie had was too good to be true.
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Swedishoo
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(6/27/2004 3:45:03 AM)
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We always knew that the media is controlled, but to actually watch it happening before our eyes and KNOW what they're doing makes me have a sick feeling in my stomach. So many spineless people in fear of losing their high paying jobs, manipulated to be nothing more than puppets for the world's elites. Fear is such a powerful controller and Moore also covers this in the movie.
Christy
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gar fla
Posts: 148
(6/27/2004 5:20:14 PM)
| Re: Re: Re: Re: Sudden media silence of Fahrenheit 9-11?
Well, Bay News 9 is running a small piece today on reaction to the film. Needless to say, it's slanted far to the right. What ever happened to fair and balanced? These news organizations have become most all hype and little, if any, substance. "Newschannel 8: On your side." LOL! Yeah, we know what side we're getting it from.
Anyway, I hope to see either the 1:10 or 3:10 showing of the movie today.
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Allen at 5
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(6/27/2004 7:44:44 PM)
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None of this surprises me at all. I haven't seen the film and have no intention of seeing it. I am more than a little concerned that given Moore's background that he isn't a "Trojan Horse" of some kind. His adoration of Slick Willie and his anti-firearms stances left me cold for ever liking his work prior to this one. After all, he really isn't saying anything that others like Bill Cooper and Alex Jones said long before him.
The Protocalls come to mind here: "For every advocate of us, we shall have two against us!".
Just as I told everyone with Dubya: Beware of Greeks bearing gifts...
Allen
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Swedishoo
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(6/27/2004 8:01:11 PM)
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I hear ya Al and believe me I have had those exact thoughts tucked in the back of my mind. Although I'm pleased with the new awareness level this movie has been causing, I have kept on my toes, and searched for any surrounding agendas on Moore's part. After a few more people have seen the movie, there are some issues I'd like to discuss, but for the most part, what was in the movie was right on target. Al, I'm sorry that Moore has left a bitter taste in your mouth and I can understand why, but I was hoping to get your input on this movie cause there's lots of stuff I'd like to discuss. Gar, I'm glad you are seeing today. When you get back, please share your review.
Christy
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Allen at 5
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(6/27/2004 9:07:09 PM)
| Re: Re: Sudden media silence of Fahrenheit 9-11?
Christy,
You have my input on it: Watch out, keep low and move fast. Moore is a "rudder"- pure and simple. My feeling is "they" are trying to steer the "masses" towards the Demoncrapic Party and make the masses think that represents a viable, valid choice alternative. The Illuminati would be extremely stupid if they didn't try a stunt like this. My personal guess is that there will be "backlash" against this phony "trend" and Dubya will be "re-elected" (just as I have said all along) in November. Watch it happen Folks...
Allen
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gar fla
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(6/27/2004 9:54:48 PM)
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I just got back from seeing the movie! I had no idea the Bush-Bin Laden connection was so strong! Michael Moore's use of humor is fantastic. and it often came at a time when things were getting too intense. Geez, I'm shocked that TPTB allowed anyone to see this movie. Believe it or not, the theatre was less than half full! When waiting in line for my ticket, I listened to others purchase tickets to get a sense of what people's interests were. It's sad to say that I heard so many more people ask for White Chicks than Fahrenheit 9-11. That says it all.
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Allen at 5
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(6/27/2004 10:37:03 PM)
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gar fla wrote on 6/27/2004 3:54:48 PM:
I just got back from seeing the movie! I had no idea the Bush-Bin Laden connection was so strong! Michael Moore's use of humor is fantastic. and it often came at a time when things were getting too intense. Geez, I'm shocked that TPTB allowed anyone to see this movie. Believe it or not, the theatre was less than half full! When waiting in line for my ticket, I listened to others purchase tickets to get a sense of what people's interests were. It's sad to say that I heard so many more people ask for White Chicks than Fahrenheit 9-11. That says it all.
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No, TPTB WANT you to see this movie, that is really what this is all about- it is nothing but a "measuring device" to gauge the reaction of "the masses" just in case you haven't already figured that out. The fact that Moore totally "ignored" the Israeli/Zionist connection to 9/11 (hee yuk, hee yuk) told me EXACTLY whom he works for.
Checkmate...
Allen
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Mary
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(6/27/2004 11:23:57 PM)
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We know nothing happens in politics by accident. From 'The Towers That Were" to the releasing of the movie about it all ring with a blunt tone to me. There is some stale smell of "freedom" here. "We are Free! We have Both Sides of the Story now!!! Isn't it wonderful in USAmerica we have this freedom", GAG me. I want to watch Moore's movie just to see for myself what was left out...which I'm sure is mountains of truth. Do you possibly think he could bring Israel and Illuminati Agenda into this? He would never get a rating and we would be passing the film around in underground home theatres if at all. I am very suspicious of his anti-gun message. I am disgusted that he praises Clinton who was just another brick in their wall of slavery.. WIlly was doing Monica and OJ was doing Nicole and THEY were doing Rwanda and other special "Tradey" things. Don't think for one moment there isn't another agenda going on here. I still want to see it however I hate giving money to this b.s. MARY
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gar fla
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(6/27/2004 11:27:03 PM)
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Al, this is one time I don't agree with you. If TPTB wanted us to see this film, why then the linited showing and sudden media silence? I believe Michael Moore is just a concerned individual in a position to get his message out. If you look for conspiracy in everything, you will never find truth. The only thing I disagree with about Michael Moore is his belief in gun control. Other than that, I never thought I'd see the day when I would be in praise of the efforts from someone on the left.
BTW, I would like to be a fly on the wall of Jason's RV right now to see his reaction.
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Allen at 5
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(6/27/2004 11:58:11 PM)
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gar fla wrote on 6/27/2004 5:27:03 PM:
Al, this is one time I don't agree with you. If TPTB wanted us to see this film, why then the linited showing and sudden media silence? I believe Michael Moore is just a concerned individual in a position to get his message out. If you look for conspiracy in everything, you will never find truth. The only thing I disagree with about Michael Moore is his belief in gun control. Other than that, I never thought I'd see the day when I would be in praise of the efforts from someone on the left.
BTW, I would like to be a fly on the wall of Jason's RV right now to see his reaction.
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Gar, Because this is EXACTLY what "The Prince" and "The Art of War" call for. ALL warfare is based upon deception and a "conspiracy" is any two or more individuals working in concert to achieve a desired end. I believe Mike Moore is just a concerned individual almost as much as I believe in my chances to be elected the next Pope.
Who foots the bill for Moore? Have you looked at this? Supposedly he is just an ex-autoworker from Flint Michigan turned filmaker. I know of people with a lot more talent than he has who can't get a 1 minute commercial on a midnite TV spot, yet this clown is running around making feature films? I don't think so.
Allen
PS: As an aside, I don't mean to hurt your (or anyone else's feelings), but you have to learn to look beyond BOTH the "mainstream" AND "conspiracy theory" so-called "viewpoints" and learn to recognize that they are really only two faces of the same coin presented to distract and entrain you (and I did NOT mean "entertain" there!). There is a third and even a fourth direction (probably more than that!) to look at!
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Swedishoo
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(6/28/2004 2:47:04 AM)
| Sudden media silence of Fahrenheit 9-11?
(Al, I took out your double posts. I don't know why it does that to you. I always save your post before I delete the double just in case they both dissapear, but so far I haven't had any problems. I don't know why my board does that to you. Sorry about that.)
OKAY you guys, we're a smart bunch and I'd like to think about this out loud...Fahrenheit 9/11 plays connect the dots and does a mighty fine job at it too. But Al brings up some interesting points and we can connect a few dots of our own. Gee whiz Mary and Al, run out and go see it real quick!!!!!....lol..we got stuff to discuss and compare!
Okay, Gar, see if you agree with me. Now I'm just thinking out loud here and going with the flow. Everything in F9/11 was done well and backed with facts, either by a camera in someone's face stating the information, or with a document for the audience to read. There was tons of information, which most we already knew, but a lot of wild info that I have NEVER read anywhere, which were also backed with facts. One of many many examples is the bin Laden/Bush connections, all the bin Laden families living here or visiting (I think they said 127 of them?) and how they flew the entire family out of the US to Saudi Arabia without any investigations and during the no-fly period. All wild stuff. Investigators were upset that the prime suspect's connections were wisked out of the US without questioning and the following cover-ups. The movie showed the Saudi pay-off connections to papa and son Bush for being board members to the Saudi oil companies. And on and on and on. So much information, I'm sure it was overwhelming for some...or many.
Okay, now I'm going to play devil's advocate. Here's the questions I have in the back of my mind about F9/11. I agreed with everything IN the movie, but what was NOT in the movie is what I have been wondering about. Of course I realize that there was only 2 hours and you can only squeeze in so much...PLUS the fact, I could see where Moore couldn't have everything because then it could 'take away' from the message if you have too much...but still there was ONE thing that I felt was KEY and it wasn't there.
In the movie, Moore goes on about the Patriot Act, making many valid points. Next I thought, would be about the Homeland Security Act and how Congress has to declare war and because of the creation of Homeland Security BushyBones and SideKick Dick jumped through the loophole. It wasn't there. Not one word about Homeland Security! Why? Was going down that path too narrow for Moore so he avoided it? Am I crazy for thinking this was a vital point?
Another interesting point not brought up was the Federal Reserve or the financing of the war. The movie showed how money went INTO the Bush's pockets, but never talked about how money comes out of ours, OR the Fed connection. Also, like Al mentioned, their was no mention of the Isrealis. Why are they so quite in all of this?
It's like there needs to be a part two to this movie. I have more questions but this is all for now.
"BTW, I would like to be a fly on the wall of Jason's RV right now to see his reaction."
LOLOL. He's probably in a drunken stupor.
Christy
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Swedishoo
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(6/28/2004 3:34:28 AM)
| Moore Railroaded?
"My personal guess is that there will be "backlash" against this phony "trend" and Dubya will be "re-elected" (just as I have said all along) in November. "
So Al, you think Moore is going to be Railroaded? It's a possiblility, but there are so many people that are fed-up with this war.
Christy
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Mary
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(6/28/2004 6:37:12 AM)
| Re: Sudden media silence of Fahrenheit 9-11?
Double Darn It - this Bozo town has the movie playing in one hippie movie theatre and its 25 miles away. No one else would touch it I guess. San Luis Obispo does have about 300,000 people, its not a ghost town. What a bunch of weenies. A recent letter to the local (only) newspaper said "I am so sick of hearing about Bush's lies and deceit. Why can't you just leave him alone!!!!" SIGH. I am really anxious to see the damn movie. I will get there this week come Hell or High Chemtrails.
Mary..you guys have a good week.
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Swedishoo
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(6/28/2004 7:09:55 AM)
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Mary, call up all of your local AMC theaters and tell them you want it closer to your town. This Wednesday AMC announced they would open up 300 more locations nationwide. 300 is really not enough, but maybe if you give them a ring...It's funny because F 9/11 played in less than 800 theaters, the average release like white chicks, played in almost 3,000 theaters. F 9/11 still #1 in sales and EACH theater averaged over $25,000 G's opening weekend.
Speaking of movies...lol...maybe I'm gettting sleepy but it made me think of something funny. My girlfriend and I saw BradBoy Troy a while ago and she bought my ticket as we were going in. I tried to hand her some money, but she said, no no no, I got it...you buy the popcorn and drinks. My forehead wrinkled...hummm, I think I got the short end of the stick...you buy my ticket for 7 bucks and I pay 30 bucks in popcorn...LOL, so when we went to F9/11, I had bought the tickets in advance and she went to hand me money...lol...no no no, I told her, you buy the drinks and popcorn...LOL...I'm getting silly. Night All.
Christy
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gar fla
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(6/28/2004 10:04:29 PM)
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Where does his funding come from? I believe Disney funded the film before they changed their mind about releasing it. No mention of Homeland Security? Even though I don't recall the specific term being mentioned either, he more than covered the contraditions and consequences of it. For example, remember the part about only one police officer guarding the entire Oregon coast? LOL Why no mention of Israel? My guess would be because most people in the media, including those who backed the film project, are Jewish. It may not sound PC to say such a thing but let's be honest. So as we know, it's taboo to be critical of Israel. I'm not even Jewish and I still question the belief of an Israel 9-11 connection. BTW, I think it's great that F9-11 was tops at the box office. Now, the talking heads have no choice but to report on the movie.
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Mary
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(6/28/2004 10:57:45 PM)
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I can feel eggshells crunching beneath my feet but I have to say that I believe Israel and USA are way too close for comfort. Although I have some real good Jewish friends I find their blind loyalty to the country very disturbing. Its uncool to say anything about Israel, the Hologosh and all, but it's kind of obvious there are some unhealthy ties. Whew.
I will check out the AMC suggestion, Christy. Can't hurt but this county is so sensitive. The peace rally Friday night with 150 people of the street variety made it more evident that the ear-muffed and blindfolded around here are staying home and preying in their special way. ~Moi 
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Swedishoo
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(6/29/2004 4:23:49 AM)
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Yeah, it's the eggshell/Israel/taboo thing that everyone (and I'm guilty of too) that everyone prefers to avoid. I'm not sure why this is. I know in church we've always been taught love the Jew/blessed are those who love the Jew...and I can relate to that in a spiritual and Godly point of view....but in a business/finacial point of view, I don't know. (and I'll do some eggshell walking now...) but I think maybe in the finacial scheme of things, Israel may be a bigger culpret than we know. Perhaps may be the major culpret. But hey, what do I know, I'm walking on eggshells too.
"Where does his funding come from? I believe Disney funded the film before they changed their mind about releasing it."
I meant the funding of BushyBone's war...with no mention of the Federal Reserve, Bank of England, or any other Central Banks.
Yeah, the talking heads are forced to say something. Today on the Kathy Fountain show she had a bunch of GOP typicals bashing the movie, taking callers that said they hated the movie. Ha. The one caller had trouble speaking english, sounded Saudi to me..LOLOL. Kathy Fountain had her forehead wrinkled trying to understand him (no one did) and she said, caller I don't understand what you are trying to say, we need to move on...and hung up on him. LOL. After one of the Pro-Bush guys went on and on about Geo Bush has no connection to bin Laden, he then added, that there was no doubt in his mind that Moore will win an Academy Award for this movie. Huh? Then when he realized what he had said, he said, well, umm, that's because the entire Academy is made of Hollywood left-wing liberals, of course he'll win...LOL
I think what I love most about this movie is regardless what the politicians and corporate America wants us to believe, it's the people going crazy, standing ovation and all, over this movie. The public need for this movie is like a Cambodian child needing food.
Christy
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gar fla
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(6/29/2004 5:54:32 AM)
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Christy, I also watched the channel 13 "Your Turn" (LOL) show. I also couldn't believe that all three guests were Bush puppets. 3 to 0? At least one of the three could have represented the other point of view. You're right, there's a hunger for the truth and some already seem to have the diet pill to stop it.
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Allen at 5
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(6/29/2004 10:30:38 PM)
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Israel has a LONG history (well documented and proven) of carrying out false flag operations and blaming them on their enemies. There are numerous examples dating all the way back to the '40s and a Zionist Israeli connection to 9/11 I don't doubt in the least- it makes perfect sense and they are really the only ones who would profit from such an operation. Two of the Israeli "movers" who were arrested on 9/11 while filming the WTC disaster (they were dancing, remember) were later found to be members of the Mossad- the Israeli intelligence service corresponding to the British MI-6 or the CIA in the USA.
"By way of deception thou shalt do war". Motto of the Israeli Mossad.
Allen
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Mary
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(6/29/2004 11:22:59 PM)
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Watch out for the thin ice under the egg shells. I really made my jewish friend mad. I sent her a extremely awesome article from John Kaminski and OMG those were not flowers hitting the fan, believe me. She said Kaminski is a Jew Hater.. That is so not true. Too bad people just bind up and tank as soon as they get some trigger word. I said oh, gee, didn't know you were a Zionist illuminati, Cynthia. Sheesh.
Have to agree totally about the Collective Mind you experienced in the movie, Christy. There isn't anything quite as wonderful as a room full of people on the same page. I felt it at the victory party for a candidate we worked so hard to get elected. I think I could get hooked on that feeling. Addicted for Goodness Sakes!
Work hard, reap the rewards. Hope that we all will mentally meet someday soon in a collective mind-party.. Love Mary
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Mary
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(6/29/2004 11:28:13 PM)
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HA ~ Drew and I haven't been to a movie together in all of our 19 years. I am shocked hearing how much popcorn is. What a rip off. Used to be $5 for a show and a full (of junk) stomach. Yikes! ~M
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Allen at 5
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(6/30/2004 12:24:44 AM)
| Re: Re: Re: Sudden media silence of Fahrenheit 9-11?
Mary wrote on 6/29/2004 5:28:13 PM:
| HA ~ Drew and I haven't been to a movie together in all of our 19 years. I am shocked hearing how much popcorn is. What a rip off. Used to be $5 for a show and a full (of junk) stomach. Yikes! ~M |
Most of the money that theaters make today comes from concession sales rather than ticket sales. It cost me more for the single popcorn and soda I had when I went to see Lord of the Rings: Return of the King than it did for the admission. I could have had a fairly decent dinner out for the same price.
Allen
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Allen at 5
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(6/30/2004 12:33:59 AM)
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Mary wrote on 6/29/2004 5:22:59 PM:
Watch out for the thin ice under the egg shells. I really made my jewish friend mad. I sent her a extremely awesome article from John Kaminski and OMG those were not flowers hitting the fan, believe me. She said Kaminski is a Jew Hater.. That is so not true. Too bad people just bind up and tank as soon as they get some trigger word. I said oh, gee, didn't know you were a Zionist illuminati, Cynthia. Sheesh.
Have to agree totally about the Collective Mind you experienced in the movie, Christy. There isn't anything quite as wonderful as a room full of people on the same page. I felt it at the victory party for a candidate we worked so hard to get elected. I think I could get hooked on that feeling. Addicted for Goodness Sakes!
Work hard, reap the rewards. Hope that we all will mentally meet someday soon in a collective mind-party.. Love Mary |
The vast majority of "Jews" today have NO genetic linkage to the Biblical Hebrews in any way shape or form- they are Kazahars, not semitic people at all. The tiny handfull of Jews who remained in the "Holy Land" all these years among their Arab neighbors are almost identical genetically to the Palestinian Arabs- a scientific fact which came out a couple years or so ago and caused such a furor in the "Jewish" community that it was quickly buried. Not all of the Palestinians are Muslims either; about 1/3 are Christians.
BTW,just as another interesting side fact on Israel: the Hebrew god didn't give dominion over Jersusalem to the tribe of Juda (or the Jews), he gave it to the Benjamites who were wiped out by the Jews in intertribal warfare centuries ago.
The Truth is "hate speech" only to those who have something to hide.
Allen
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Mary
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(6/30/2004 10:11:46 PM)
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Allen you are SO smart I can't believe it. I always learn something new from reading your posts. Thanks for info. Mary
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Swedishoo
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(7/1/2004 3:27:05 AM)
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Wasn't it Lord Rothchild and/or Churchill that made a big mess of Palestine in the first place?
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Allen at 5
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(7/1/2004 11:10:08 AM)
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Swedishoo wrote on 6/30/2004 9:27:05 PM:
| Wasn't it Lord Rothchild and/or Churchill that made a big mess of Palestine in the first place? |
Yes. It was the British who established the "Protectorate of Palestine" after WW-I under mandates from the League of Nations. Prior to that time, excluding WW-I (ever seen Lawrence of Arabia?), the area was completely peaceful. The Jews (the Rothschilds) were promised the establishment of a "Jewish state" by the British in exchange for banking concessions to finance WW-I. They made a "deal with the devil" in other words. The entire current mess can be traced directly back to this. I tried to explain this MANY times to the Cyster but he refused to listen.
Allen
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Mary
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(7/2/2004 3:30:05 AM)
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This is the email I got today from someone in Ireland. What is your opinion? Mary
Bush To Receive Profits Of Farenheit 9/11
Carylyle Group Deal With Lowes Mean Moore Money For Bush
6/27/2004 10:47:33 AM
LSN Staff
Washington, DC -- A large portion of the profits from Michael Moore's new
movie Farhenheit 9/11
will go to President Bush and his family's corporate interests, under a
deal
cut between Lowe's Theaters, the Carlyle Group, Bain Capital and Spectrum
Equity.
The three venture capital groups have agreed to purchase Lowe's Theaters,
one of the largest theater chains in the nation, for $2 billion. The deal
is
expected to close in the third quarter of this year, and all profits from
summer movie ticket sales are to be assigned to three VCs.
This means that profits from the record-breaking film, which reportedly is
ultra critical of Bush but toes the Democratic line of not being critical
of
Jewish hate as something uniquely Jewish, will end up lining the pockets
of
the very corporate interests it purports to attack.
Bush is a Jew-run scumbag, but his opponent in the Presidential election,
John Kerry, is an actual Jew, and is worse. Jews are trying to defeat
Bush
because they would rather have an actual Jew in office enacting their
policies
of hate than a gentile front man.
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