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Allen at 5
Posts: 313
(7/4/2005 7:59:04 PM)
|  Star Wars III
The Revenge of the Sith...
I'd suggest if you all haven't seen it on the "big screen", go do so- a tv and dvd player won't do it justice. If afterwards you don't feel a great deal more empathy and sympathy with and for Anakin Skywalker and the Emperor Palpatine, then you have missed the message entirely. This is an Illuminutty setpiece. The special effects are stunning, probably the best ever seen in a movie, and the story itself is sad, somber, and depressing.
The people who lensed this KNEW full well exactly what they were doing.
"Only the Sith deal in absolutes!"
Obi-Wan Kenobi
BS... So do the Jedi... I came to really despise him, as well as his unfaithful wife, who brought Kenobi to the last stage to kill her husband. She trusted her beliefs more than her heart, and him- yet at the end she died knowing the truth- that there is good in her husband as well as what she believed evil- she wanted to be only on one side- and that cannot be done.
Go watch it. let me know what you all think of it.
Allen
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Swedishoo
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(7/25/2005 4:06:01 AM)
| Re: Star Wars III
I saw the movie and of course the movie was no surprise to anyone because we've known for the past 25 years how the story ends...however, I still enjoyed it greatly.
I did notice the political slurs I heard other's speaking of...about the Geo Bush remark... about "either you are with us or you are against us" comment. I also picked up quite quickly on the evil/good point of view...The bottom line: It all depends on your perspective. An interesting concept ...that can spiral with no end if you think about it. For example: If Anakin Skywalker becomes evil because he believes he is saving his wife's life AND he believes there is MORE to the force AND that it's being withheld from him, then who is to say if the "dark-side" is really evil? Yes, there are many parallels, and on MANY levels...i.e. as in the Garden of Eden story when the serpent tells Eve if she partakes in eating the forbidden fruit, she will be as a God herself...as if God Almighty was purposely leaving her out of the loop; as Anakin so believed. This is the age-old trick and the oldest sin known to man: to be as God, the most selfish thought one could ever possess. BUT, in the movie, does that make the Dark Side bad? Perhaps it's to make you assume it's bad. But actually it's a dichotomy that needs one another. If the Jedi members knew-all, and their premonitions and powers gave them the ability to acknowledge events and obstacles yet to happen, then it would only seem logical that they knew that Anakin's actions were also a part of the bigger plan that had to occur. Who is evil now? It's all in the perspective. I don't care if you take Saddam, Hitler, Castro etc etc. Could they believe WE were evil? Most likely. So if you think about it... Relating all of this to the United States...are we the side of the Emperor, or the side of the Jedi council? Hard question to answer huh?
Christy
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Allen at 5
Posts: 313
(7/29/2005 6:11:18 AM)
|  Re: Re: Star Wars III
Actually, the answer to the question is very simple: you aren't on the side of either one. Learn to reach/see BEYOND the simplistic "good vs evil"...
Allen
"Yes, there are many parallels, and on MANY levels...i.e. as in the Garden of Eden story when the serpent tells Eve if she partakes in eating the forbidden fruit, she will be as a God herself...as if God Almighty was purposely leaving her out of the loop; as Anakin so believed. This is the age-old trick and the oldest sin known to man: to be as God, the most selfish thought one could ever possess."
No...
That last is a completely false statement. It is the most holy and sacred duty one can aspire to. It is using that power in the wrong way (as the Illuminutty do) that is selfish.
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Allen at 5
Posts: 313
(7/31/2005 9:21:08 PM)
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Padme' is humanity and "Eve" (just in case any of you all hadn't figured this out already) and wants to be a "free spirit" and run her own head of steam. Guess what? It don't work that'a way. She died just as her husband had forseen, AND she brought worse than death upon him before she died. Pretty poor performance for a "wife".
The Illuminutty KNOW these things to be true, why do you think they parade them before you in plain sight?
Allen
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Psiquest
Posts: 28
(9/5/2005 7:05:24 AM)
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Sure...blame the wifey....
Anakin is eventually "saved" by Luke, remember? That's the beauty of the story.
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Allen at 5
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(9/5/2005 3:04:00 PM)
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Excuse me, but the wife is supposed to stand with her husband- he was the chosen one remmeber. If the Jedi hadn't made the mistakes they did in trusting him and treating him as they should have, he wouldn't have turned to the dark side at all. It was to try and ssave her that he did. Luke didn't save him, he saved himself [and Luke] by destroying Palpatine.
Your total lack of preceptiveness has never ceased to amaze me, I see you haven't improved it any either thru the years.
Allen
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Psiquest
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(9/5/2005 6:33:12 PM)
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You wouldn't be taking your Star Wars movies a little too seriously there would you Al? LOL
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Allen at 5
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(9/5/2005 10:17:29 PM)
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Psiquest wrote on 9/5/2005 12:33:12 PM:
| You wouldn't be taking your Star Wars movies a little too seriously there would you Al? LOL |
I didn't know they were mine jackass, I'm sure missing out on a lot of royaties. What you missed is that Lucas based ALL his series upon ancient myths and legends and if you had an iota of common sense you'd know this. Gee folks, I wonder just whom it was that chose "Yoda" as his avatar over at Gregg's board? Hmmm, now just WHO could that be? Could it be that Jerk-in-the-Box Cy? Hmmm, could be!
Allen
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Psiquest
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(9/6/2005 1:42:29 AM)
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Allen at 5 wrote on 9/5/2005 3:17:29 PM:
Psiquest wrote on 9/5/2005 12:33:12 PM:
| You wouldn't be taking your Star Wars movies a little too seriously there would you Al? LOL |
I didn't know they were mine jackass, I'm sure missing out on a lot of royaties. What you missed is that Lucas based ALL his series upon ancient myths and legends and if you had an iota of common sense you'd know this. Gee folks, I wonder just whom it was that chose "Yoda" as his avatar over at Gregg's board? Hmmm, now just WHO could that be? Could it be that Jerk-in-the-Box Cy? Hmmm, could be! Allen |
Gee Al, you seem a little testy about this Star Wars thing. It must be really important in your life. Actually the idea of the force was based upon a form of Eastern religion, that which was/ is practiced by Shaolin monks in their martial arts, I believe....You missed the genius on Anakin's turn to the darkside by the way.. It's not that he was trying to save his wife, it's that this was just a surface rationalization for his real desire for power, an idea planted in his mind by the evil Empreror Paletine.. His wife's death became a self fullfilling prophecy based upon his own actions. The idea here is that if you turn to evil, even for what you believe to be a good cause, evil then can take hold of you and possess you, because the outcome of evil can NEVER be for a good cause. It is always deception.
This concept was extremely profound.
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Allen at 5
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(9/6/2005 1:49:37 AM)
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"Gee Al, you seem a little testy about this Star Wars thing. It must be really important in your life. Actually the idea of the force was based upon Eastern religion, that was is practiced by Shaolin monks, I believe....You missed the genius on Anakin's turn to the darkside by the way.. It's not that he was trying to save his wife, it's that this was a surface rationalization for power planted in his mind by the evil Empreror Paletine.. His wife's death became a self fullfilling prophecy based upon his own actions. The idea here is that if you turn to evil, even for what you believe to be a good cause, evil then can take hold of you and possess you, because the outcome of evil can NEVER be for a good cause. It is always deception.
This concept was extremely profound."
Wrong on all counts.
The only concept you understand IS evil Cy. The idea of "the Force" comes from MANY sources, including ALL modern religions. Again, your total lack of both preception and knowledge never ceases to amaze me.
Allen
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Allen at 5
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(9/6/2005 1:56:33 AM)
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Psiquest wrote on 9/5/2005 7:51:52 PM:
| The only concept I understand is evil, Al?...How so? What evil are you accusing me of committing? |
Your tactics won't work on me Junior, you should know that well by now.
Allen
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Allen at 5
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(9/6/2005 2:17:09 AM)
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Psiquest wrote on 9/5/2005 8:05:00 PM:
| I thought that was a question...Am I using some kind of tactic that I'm unaware of? |
No, but I am and very well so. I have seen you pull the same stunt too many times before to be baited.
Sorry Cy, missed yet again.
Allen
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Allen at 5
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(9/6/2005 3:10:02 AM)
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Psiquest wrote on 9/5/2005 9:03:54 PM:
| Do you always enjoy it when people look like jerks? |
Stow it. You are lucky you haven't been up on charges before, keep it up and you may well find that people's patience with you has worn out.
Allen
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