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gar fla
Posts: 148
(8/30/2004 8:06:31 PM)
| Let's talk about spraying
Christy, have you noticed the sudden CT activity over the past couple of days? It got to the point where I hadn't thought much about chemtrails, other than the hope that the program was finally coming to an end, because there hadn't been any for so long. Oh well.
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Lonelylittleme13
Posts: 45
(8/31/2004 3:26:56 AM)
| Re: Let's talk about spraying
Cetral Eastern Iowa is getting bombed pretty good the last 3 days. Bastards. I keep trying to hex them into a crash... hasn't worked yet. :/
On a side note: I had enough copper pipe and resin (resin from building Hhgs and the 1/2 pipe from some plumbing work), along with bb's and copper scouring pads left over to make a CB on a 1/6 scale. Do you know that little bugger is keeping the skies clear for about 7 miles in every direction?? WOAH!! It is a riot to sit outside and watch it tear through the chemcrap as it drifts over the house!! hehehehe I have GOT to get a full size one going!! OH!!! And the little one was made in a 5 qt Easter pail (the kind you get a wallyfartmart for the bunny baskets). After it totally set (2 days) it lifted right out of the bucket with no problem!! Which means that now, after I get a full size CB built and running, and I can carry the little on off somewhere and bury it with just the tops of the pipes sticking out to clean up somewhere else!! WOOHOO!!
*doing happy dance*
OH! And the other thing: we had been so dry here with no REAL rain (just that damn chem/acid crap) that I went ahead and sprayed down the CB with my plant water bottle that mists, and that NIGHT the forecast changed and we got 2 1/2 days of nice REAL RAIN!!! And the water in the bucket (before I had removed the cb from it) was quite wonderful!! Try some of that in your bath water or just rub it in where you hurt!! I had a migraine starting and rubbed some into my forehead and BOOM! it was gone in 5 minutes!!
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Swedishoo
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Posts: 690
(8/31/2004 4:12:28 AM)
| Let's talk about spraying
Yeah, I noticed that the past few days we've been getting some activity too. Like you said, they've been very sparse for a long time and in the past few days I've been noticing them again.
Hey Al, have you ever built an orgone buster or chembuster? I know you know all about it because you sent me the book. What's your take on it??
Christy
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gar fla
Posts: 148
(8/31/2004 5:56:23 AM)
| Re: Let's talk about spraying
I just can't figure out all the hype over chembusters. It's like putting the cart before the horse. Think about it! We have to first know the exact composition of the aerosols they're spraying before something can be found to stop the effects. I don't want to offend anyone but I believe this "chembusters" following is the result of raw emotion and anger and only does harm to making this issue being taken seriously. To compare it to every day politics, it's simply a "feel good" solution which doesn't address the real problem.
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Swedishoo
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Posts: 690
(8/31/2004 6:12:18 AM)
| Re: Re: Let's talk about spraying
What I have thought of is what happens to the residuals?
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Lonelylittleme13
Posts: 45
(8/31/2004 5:33:08 PM)
| Re: Re: Re: Let's talk about spraying
Everyone always misses this point. We can do nothing as one lone person to clean this crap up from the entire world, but we CAN clean up our own little space. What happens to the crud? It's gets pushed somewhere else. Does this bug me? A bit, but you know what? I have MY Family to worry about. When the sheeple wake the hell up they can worry about their families too. Until that day, I take care of me and mine only. I do what I can, and that is all I CAN DO.
And no, it isn't hype about the CBs at all.
Jena |
gar fla
Posts: 148
(8/31/2004 7:38:08 PM)
| Re: Re: Re: Re: Let's talk about spraying
The point being missed is how these things are supposed to work. Even assuming they did anything, you're talking a device only several feet long affecting a so much larger aerosol mass 10,000 to 20,000 feet up. Where is the science behind this? The way these things are claimed to function ignores very basic laws of physics. Let's not even mention that it's impossible to have a device to get rid of something when we don't even know just what the something is made of. The term "sheeple" doesn't only apply
to the average ignorant apathetic American who only cares about personal gain. It also applies to those who are lead by their emotions. When it comes to what we can do about chemtrails, I can honestly say I don't have the answer. And I can't jump on any bandwagon which doesn't follow simple rules of reason. That's just me, I guess.
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Allen at 5
Posts: 313
(8/31/2004 11:04:42 PM)
| Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Let's talk about spraying
Cloudbusting is OLD technology. You may not like this answer, but I used to do it all the time just by concentrating on them- range is NO issue at all; if the cloud is visible- it can be acted upon. The cloudbuster is really only an amplifier- it is the operator that does the work. The science behind it is well documented- Reich did several books and hundreds of pages of notes on how the things are set up and how they work.
Allen
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gar fla
Posts: 148
(9/1/2004 12:57:48 AM)
| Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Let's talk about spraying
The documents are based on unproven assumptions, such as CT aerosols are held together by Orgone. How do they know this? Christy made a good point which isn't addressed. What happens to all the chem residuals? Again, this is even assuming chembusters can even affect this orgone. It all sounds impressive if you don't read between the lines.
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Swedishoo
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Posts: 690
(9/1/2004 1:40:42 AM)
| Orgone
I've read a lot of Reich's materials and I think he was really on to something with the DOR and the OR. However, I would like to see someone present it in a different way. For example, Tesla discovered ozone and was to able to create it basically by generating a charge through ultra violet light (also used a cold plasma technique) which produced three parts oxygen. Now to say one can create oxygen through an ultra violet light frequency sounds crazy, but Tesla cranked out the goods. Also, Tesla refered to an energy force he called aether. He claimed he could harness this force and use it for energy, which personally I strongly believe he did. If Reich would have had the industrial ingenuity that tesla had, I think many inventions would have been discovered pertaining to orgone. Matter of fact, some believe that orgone is the same as Tesla's termed aether. What baffles me is how Reich was put in prison (where he died) for his cloudbuster and his books were destroyed. Why? He must have been on to something big.
Christy
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Lonelylittleme13
Posts: 45
(9/1/2004 3:24:52 AM)
| Re: Orgone
"Nikola Tesla held a view of the aether more akin to it actually being the electromagnetic field."
This is sorta kinda like what orgone in. Good Orgone is beneficial life source energy. The energy is generated by the crystals and metals, the resin helps to speed up the vibrations within them when it heats them and kick start the process, so to speak. And before gar poo poos that crystals and metals have vibrations, I'll give you the scientific basis for that.
Think to the smallest particle of any bit of matter. it is an atom. What is an atom made up of? Sub-atomic particles that spin/revolve/orbit the nucleus of the atom. Depending on how MANY of the sub-atomic particles you have, the vibrations will vary. Vibrations and sound (pretty much go hand in hand since sound IS vibration) are KNOWN to have ill and healing effects on the body. Quartz has been known for centuries for it's healing and clearing properties, as well as for restoring the body's natural "vibrations" (yes, people vibrate as well and emit sound from the electrical impulses/blood flow/movement).
The generator creates the GOOD orgone energy that counters the vibrations put out by the crap in the spray. That disperses it. that is why the device can also be used to dry out clouds that are natural as well as to DRAW clouds with rain when you spray down the pipes (you are adding a water frequency to the energy being sent out, like attracts like with natural energies).
Good Orgone also counter acts the bad, neutralizes is, so that it can be replaced.
"What baffles me is how Reich was put in prison (where he died) for his cloudbuster and his books were destroyed. Why? He must have been on to something big."
Yes he was. A way to combat drought and/or flood, and undo what the government was experimenting with in weather control methods. Same thing basically happend to tesla. He was a genius and could have ruled the entire world with the coil he built. But he was not that kind of person. He only wanted to HELP mankind. The government ridiculed his work (while at the same time issuing him patents on his devices so they could steal them), drove him out from the scientific community, and he died broke and shamed by his supposed peers.
Jena |
Swedishoo
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Posts: 690
(9/1/2004 3:47:54 AM)
| Re: Re: Orgone
Crystals and metals do have frequencies and can be tapped for energy use. For example quartz crystal batteries used in watches... And of course, some metals are conductors...actually I think all non-alloy metals are conductors but in higher and lower degrees. Salt is a metal.
I'm very sensitive to large amounts of crystals. Twice, once at MOSI (Museum of Science and Indusrty) and once at this raw crystal warehouse in Maderia Beach, I became extremely dizzy to their large crystal displays.There were thousands of pounds of crystals in these rooms and they would make my head spin. Some of these rocks would be chucks of earth as large or larger than a person each. I could hear those suckers humming. LOL. I'd leave and be fine, go back in and feel sick again. I've heard this happens to some people.
Christy
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Lonelylittleme13
Posts: 45
(9/1/2004 4:43:06 AM)
| Re: Re: Re: Orgone
" once at this raw crystal warehouse in Maderia Beach, I became extremely dizzy to their large crystal displays.There were thousands of pounds of crystals in these rooms and they would make my head spin. Some of these rocks would be chucks of earth as large or larger than a person each."
Distract the security for 30 minutes for me and you will NOT have that problem again! *WEG* I am such a rock junky. LOL I ahve crystals, rocks, bricks, wood, etc all over the house. Sometimes, they just SPEAK to me and I have to take them home. *G*
As for metals that are conductors, all metals that are able to conduct an electrical charge will work. Those that conduct best, work best, like copper and steel.
Jena |
gar fla
Posts: 148
(9/1/2004 3:17:51 PM)
| Re: Re: Re: Re: Orgone
What's still being overlooked is that the original cloud busting idea Al pointed out was based on a target of regular clouds,not aerosols being sprayed. Again, the question which conveniently being ignored is how is it known that this orgone affects aerosols of an undetermined composition? I'll ask again. (Assuming these things do as they are supposed to) What about the residuals from the aerosols? As for the crystal energy, please explain just how this energy is able to be directed to affect something at least 10,000 ft from the point of origin and still have the enough concentrated power? That's where the laws of physics come in. There's no basic science to these "chembusters". It's based on hearsay and wishful thinking. If you believe otherwise, please at least address the questions which continue to be unanswered.
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Allen at 5
Posts: 313
(9/1/2004 8:37:05 PM)
| Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Let's talk about spraying
gar fla wrote on 8/31/2004 6:57:48 PM:
The documents are based on unproven assumptions, such as CT aerosols are held together by Orgone. How do they know this? Christy made a good point which isn't addressed. What happens to all the chem residuals? Again, this is even assuming chembusters can even affect this orgone. It all sounds impressive if you don't read between the lines.
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WHAT unproven assumptions? All Reich's work had to do with research that he carefully carried out and which can be duplicated by anyone who wishes to try it- try it yourself before issuing a blanket condemnation. Personally, I wouldn't try the Oranur Experiment as it is highly dangerous. Reich clearly demonstrated that clouds are indeed formed and held together by a force of some sort which as yet (so far as the mainstream goes) is unknown. The ancients refered to it as Prana or Chi.
Allen
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Allen at 5
Posts: 313
(9/1/2004 8:49:57 PM)
| Re: Orgone
Swedishoo wrote on 8/31/2004 7:40:42 PM:
I've read a lot of Reich's materials and I think he was really on to something with the DOR and the OR. However, I would like to see someone present it in a different way. For example, Tesla discovered ozone and was to able to create it basically by generating a charge through ultra violet light (also used a cold plasma technique) which produced three parts oxygen. Now to say one can create oxygen through an ultra violet light frequency sounds crazy, but Tesla cranked out the goods. Also, Tesla refered to an energy force he called aether. He claimed he could harness this force and use it for energy, which personally I strongly believe he did. If Reich would have had the industrial ingenuity that tesla had, I think many inventions would have been discovered pertaining to orgone. Matter of fact, some believe that orgone is the same as Tesla's termed aether. What baffles me is how Reich was put in prison (where he died) for his cloudbuster and his books were destroyed. Why? He must have been on to something big.
Christy |
You have to remember that Reich was a Doctor rather than a scientist first as Tesla was and his interest was more in healing his patients than in the areas Tesla went into. Anyone can build an Orgone accumlator. If you put a thermometer in one it will show a temperature increase- something supposedly impossible according to the "laws" of physical science. He gave Albert Eienstein an Orgonoscope (used to view Orgone) and he kwpt it for over a year- hardly something a scientist of his stature would do with a device made by a supposed "quack"- uless it worked just as Reich claimed it did. The Feds went to FAR too much effort to destroy the man and his work if there had been nothing to either one.
Allen
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