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Allen at 5
Posts: 313
(5/2/2004 5:48:43 PM)
| Torture of Iraqi prisoners
This is the absolute most stupid thing the US and UK could have possibly done in Iraq. I suspect strongly it was intentional. "They" need the "Forever War" desperately in order to feed off the misery and human suffering- now they have upped the ante in the game, but it won't work in the end.
Watch as captured Western entities are now tortured and mistreated in retribution, and that "justifies" still further excesses by the occupation troops- and the whole nightmare goes on and on and esclates, just as the 'Nam did. Watch it happen, just as I predicted it would.
Allen
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Swedishoo
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Posts: 690
(5/4/2004 11:41:28 PM)
| Re: Torture of Iraqi prisoners
You know, it's like they are trying to antagonize the middle east into a fierce war. It doesn't make sense....well yes, it does make sense, but my point is, it's blood boiling.
Christy
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Allen at 5
Posts: 313
(5/5/2004 12:17:56 AM)
| Re: Re: Torture of Iraqi prisoners
Swedishoo wrote on 5/4/2004 5:41:28 PM:
You know, it's like they are trying to antagonize the middle east into a fierce war. It doesn't make sense....well yes, it does make sense, but my point is, it's blood boiling.
Christy |
Bingo...
You got it- Armageddon.
There is nothing that these people could have done that will now inflame anti-American hatred and a desire for revenge more than this. This is a double lie: Americans claimed to come as liberators to free the people from the horrors of Saddam (who tortured his people) and they now do exactly the same thing he did and even worse. Can you imagine a better way to start WW-III?
Allen
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Swedishoo
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(5/5/2004 4:36:12 AM)
| Re: Torture of Iraqi prisoners
You know it baffles me...all this war garbage. Let's say that we are in the beginning stages of WW III, and soon we discover that this is out of control...and let's say that the war becomes devistating...God forbid...My question is - then what? I think the question is, who prospers? Sure we can look back in history to answer this, but can "they" be so confident that history will repeat itself one more time? It may not. Just thinking out loud.
Christy
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Allen at 5
Posts: 313
(5/5/2004 3:15:41 PM)
| Re: Re: Torture of Iraqi prisoners
Swedishoo wrote on 5/4/2004 10:36:12 PM:
You know it baffles me...all this war garbage. Let's say that we are in the beginning stages of WW III, and soon we discover that this is out of control...and let's say that the war becomes devistating...God forbid...My question is - then what? I think the question is, who prospers? Sure we can look back in history to answer this, but can "they" be so confident that history will repeat itself one more time? It may not. Just thinking out loud.
Christy |
Indeed. I personally don't think that the entities responsible for setting all this up and in motion are actually human at all. They have humans in the "elite" that do their bidding on the physical plane and serve as "front men" but these are only the puppets, not the puppet masters.
Allen
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Swedishoo
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(5/9/2004 3:02:34 AM)
| Re: Re: Re: Torture of Iraqi prisoners
There are so many things that don't make sense to me. Why on earth would someone pose for a picture if they were torturing a prisoner? Those pictures (all over the net) look fake to me. I think this is a true (lame is a better word) example of setting the stage. I think the producers and directors of Wag the Dog did a far better convincing job. Maybe the government should hire Hollywood.
Christy
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Swedishoo
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(5/9/2004 3:13:25 AM)
| Re: Re: Re: Re: Torture of Iraqi prisoners
LOL. I was thinking...maybe they did hire movie professionals...but used the Japanese! LOL Maybe if we stay tuned...we'll see Godzilla coming out of the Iraqi rubble. LOLOLOL the sheople will believe anything... I think Godzilla would be a great touch...swatting at aircrafts and stepping on miltary tanks. Shooting fire at the gold mines and oil wells.
History shows again and again
How nature points up the folly of men
Godzilla!
Oh no, they say he's got to go
Go go Godzilla, yeah
Blue Oyster Cult
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Allen at 5
Posts: 313
(5/9/2004 7:51:28 PM)
| Re: Re: Re: Re: Torture of Iraqi prisoners
Swedishoo wrote on 5/8/2004 9:02:34 PM:
There are so many things that don't make sense to me. Why on earth would someone pose for a picture if they were torturing a prisoner? Those pictures (all over the net) look fake to me. I think this is a true (lame is a better word) example of setting the stage. I think the producers and directors of Wag the Dog did a far better convincing job. Maybe the government should hire Hollywood.
Christy |
This whole this has gone so far off around the bend from "reality" it's amazing. Atrocities being committed on camera are nothing new- there was a fairly recent documentary done by (I THINK) an Australian using previously unknown and only recently declassified photo footage shot by battlefield cameramen accompaning troops (mostly Pacific Theater) in WW-2 that showed a BUNCH of VERY obnoxious acts carried out by "our boys" who were "over there". This was of course, never shown to the folks back home, nor intended to be- in fact it had been buried in the archives nearly 50 years.
Allen
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Allen at 5
Posts: 313
(5/12/2004 5:34:31 PM)
|  Escalation
Front page headlines today:
American beheaded on TV, Bushcorp "vows" to bring killers to justice!
Here's you pack and rifle Dubya...
The killers cited ause and torture of Iraqi prisoners by the US as a reason.
I warned you all this was going to happen, now it is going to spiral out of control with one atrocity after another on both sides, getting worse and worse. There is no way to strop it now. WW-3, here we come.
Note also how convenient the timing of this is, just when Bushcorp and Blair need a distraction from the torture scandle.
Allen
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Swedishoo
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(5/12/2004 10:36:34 PM)
| Re: Escalation
Yeah, I noticed that too Al. ~Sigh~ And a decapatation is quite an attention getter. If he would've been shot or hung it would have been more believable if you ask me...but noooo, let's pull out the theatrics and decapatate him. I'm sorry, I'm not buying into it. Now, I'm not saying the guy isn't dead, I'm saying I don't buy into the sensationalism. Think about it. Who's taking all these great pictures and movies? The Iraqis? And what, running down to the local one-hour photo lab to have them developed? Please. Hey, maybe the Japanese are taking those photos? lol. I don't want to sound like I'm getting on Japan's case in this thread, cause personally I believe the only reason they are over there is to get back their stolen gold. This whole thing is a money making farce as far as I see it and BushyBones and Sidekick Dick HAVE to make this war go on longer.
Christy
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Allen at 5
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(5/12/2004 10:42:47 PM)
| Re: Re: Escalation
It is interesting that several cultures killed their condemned by decapitation because it was considered more "humane". Among them the French, British, Romans, Japanese, Chinese, Saracens (muslims), Irish, etc...
Allen
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Swedishoo
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(5/12/2004 11:01:56 PM)
| Re: Re: Re: Escalation
Actually, I can see where decapitation would be quick and considered less inhumane, but to an American it "appears" cruel. BTW, this is an interesting tidbit I just thought of...When King Geo Bush Sr. was president, he made decapataion (by guillotine) a legal form of execution in the United States.
Christy
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Allen at 5
Posts: 313
(5/12/2004 11:36:25 PM)
| Re: Re: Re: Re: Escalation
Swedishoo wrote on 5/12/2004 5:01:56 PM:
Actually, I can see where decapitation would be quick and considered less inhumane, but to an American it "appears" cruel. BTW, this is an interesting tidbit I just thought of...When King Geo Bush Sr. was president, he made decapataion (by guillotine) a legal form of execution in the United States.
Christy |
Not meaning to be gross, but there were tests done by some French doctors on victims of the guillotine that showed conciousness survives for up to 30 seconds after the head is severed. Really gives you a warm squishy feeling doesn't it?
Allen
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Allen at 5
Posts: 313
(5/13/2004 12:10:52 AM)
| Re: Re: Escalation
Swedishoo wrote on 5/12/2004 4:36:34 PM:
Yeah, I noticed that too Al. ~Sigh~ And a decapatation is quite an attention getter. If he would've been shot or hung it would have been more believable if you ask me...but noooo, let's pull out the theatrics and decapatate him. I'm sorry, I'm not buying into it. Now, I'm not saying the guy isn't dead, I'm saying I don't buy into the sensationalism. Think about it. Who's taking all these great pictures and movies? The Iraqis? And what, running down to the local one-hour photo lab to have them developed? Please. Hey, maybe the Japanese are taking those photos? lol. I don't want to sound like I'm getting on Japan's case in this thread, cause personally I believe the only reason they are over there is to get back their stolen gold. This whole thing is a money making farce as far as I see it and BushyBones and Sidekick Dick HAVE to make this war go on longer.
Christy |
Suppose the whole thing is a hoax, just like the "torture and abuse" photos might be? How would we ever know?
Ever look at some of the footage of the 9-11 stuff closely? Where is all the wreckage from the sheared off wings and engines that should have been raining down on the streets below after the impacts? It looked "doctored" to me back then- even more so today. All you had was a fairly round hole in the sides of the buildings- just like that on USS Cole...
Suppose it is ALL a lie?
Allen
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Swedishoo
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(5/13/2004 3:10:35 AM)
| Re: Re: Re: Escalation
In a sense, I think it is all a hoax. It's not a hoax to the families that have to bury their sons and daughters, but just being there is a hoax to begin with...a hoax war on this gullible nation. It makes me sooo angry. People WANT to support their country and WANT to support their government ...and we should. BUT, they know this and use it against us. Our government is taking our Love for Country and raping us.
Christy
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Thermit
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(5/13/2004 8:35:06 PM)
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Gee, I guess "Operation Just Crusade" is well under way.
I don't think they are smart and trying to cause thing to get all screwed up, I think they didn't take their time to do it right. This is not pretty.
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Swedishoo
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(5/13/2004 9:37:05 PM)
| Wag the Roman Dog Bush
Well one on side I could see how things have gone awry and now may spin out of control .....but on the other side look at BushyBones and SideKick Dick's accomplishments:
They recooped the Euro dollars that Hussein was only accepting as payment for oil (absolutely genius on S. H's part). They retreived millions of dollars worth of gold, that is boasted as being enough to pay for the war. BushyBones gave Billions with a B, of our money, to go the cause, going into who-knows-who's pockets. Affliations with re-building can be linked back to our BonesBrothers...more mula there. Oil? Shit, who needs oil, this was a huge money making opportunity and they took it. Personally, I believe the Fed's made Bush and Blair organize this war. Gotta remember the gold-backed Euro dollar is the Fed's baby and Hussien was close to finishing off the Feds the way Lincoln and Kennedy tried. But Hussien was much much smarter. He used their own money against them. Okay, maybe things aren't going as planned now, but for the most part, Bush did his job and I'm sure the Feds are more than pleased with him.
Christy
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Mary
Posts: 48
(6/3/2004 1:36:42 AM)
| Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Escalation
Hmm, I always wondered whether consciousness briefly continues after decapitation. I also didn't know that Big Bush made this legal. Him and his blood rituals and sacrifices.. part of the alien trip to get high on the adrenaline I guess.
I live in a ranching area and their is a small slaughter house up the highway a few miles. I know the owners. They said one day the military from Fort Hunter Liggitt came in and wanted all of the entrails from the dumpsters out back. They were using them to desensitize the wimpy new soldiers that were heading to Iraq. So many of us aren't used to blood and guts spraying everywhere and the newbies start vomiting. Don't ever ask ME if I think there is any benefit to war... but lets not lose our heads over it. ~Mary
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Allen at 5
Posts: 313
(6/3/2004 2:58:17 AM)
| Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Escalation
War is war and quite often it is a nasty, ugly business.
That doesn't mean it is always wrong or evil- it just means you have to be prepared to get really bloody sometimes.
If you haven't watched "The Lord of The Rings" trilogy (or read the books) I'd suggest strongly all of you do so. Kings (at least those with a shred of honor) used to go into the fields and into battle with their troops- many didn't survive. This isn't only a fiction- it is history. Even Napoleon went to Russia with his men and was on the field at Waterloo in his final defeat.
Baby Bushcorp and ALL his line have BLEEPS the size of BBs in comparison.
Allen
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