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gar fla
Posts: 148
(4/9/2004 7:26:13 PM)
|  1. Forced drugging of American citizens 2. Dirty IRS
Do you remember this?
http://www.antidepressantsfacts.com/insight-federal-court-oks-forced-drugging.htm
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The Sell case was overturned the following year by the Supreme Court BUT the legality of forced drugging was not. It was given the vague definition of being allowed under "limited circumstances."
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?article_id=33109
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Swedishoo
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Posts: 690
(4/10/2004 1:30:16 AM)
| Re: Forced drugging of American citizens
Weird...and weirder yet is what he was saying...
"Because of screaming fits during court appearances and apparently paranoid delusions, including Sell's stated belief that he knew secrets about government culpability in the deaths at Waco, the lower court decided in April 1999 that he was not competent to stand trial"
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Allen at 5
Posts: 313
(4/10/2004 3:18:01 AM)
| Re: Re: Forced drugging of American citizens
One can only wonder if his "paranoid delusions" might have had a germ of truth in them and it made someone(s) very nervous...
Allen
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Swedishoo
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Posts: 690
(4/11/2004 4:04:40 AM)
| Re: Re: Re: Forced drugging of American citizens
Exactly, Al. When I first read that article I thought, what if this guy is really sane and he "knows" stuff? Kinda creeped me out thinking that could be anyone.
Christy
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Allen at 5
Posts: 313
(4/11/2004 5:21:14 AM)
| Re: Re: Re: Re: Forced drugging of American citizens
Could be you or me next time around. In the old Soviet Union, there were thousands of political prisioners tossed into "mental hospitals" for opposing the communist party and it's goals. Now it is Amerika's turn...
Al
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gar fla
Posts: 148
(4/11/2004 4:26:52 PM)
| Forced conditioning of the American sheeple
Welcome to the USSA. Remember people, loss of your freedoms is a worthy price to pay for winning the war on terror. The Iraqi people are now free and their quality of life is the best it's ever been. The economy is healthy, thanks to our president. The war on drugs is helping to keep harmful substances away from Americans. God loves the USA and hates towel heads. Bush Country: Freedom at it's best.
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Allen at 5
Posts: 313
(4/11/2004 9:14:31 PM)
| Re: Forced conditioning of the American sheeple
And watch all the sheeple scurry madly about to get their "tax returns" in on time so they can pay for the entire mess. I get so sick when I see the PO delivering the tax forms and setting them out in the lobbies of the POs and the stupid slaves picking them up and filling them out like good goy cattle.
Allen
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Swedishoo
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Posts: 690
(4/11/2004 10:42:32 PM)
| Re: Re: Forced conditioning of the American sheeple
Mooo mooo
Arg. Don't get me started on the IRS.Those shits say I owe them 4500.00 and I had no idea why. Four phone calls later, they explained to me I filed my taxes two years ago wrong and they went to the liberty of re-assessing them for me with interest of course. I was yelling and screaming. They said that notifiing me two years later was "good" that they are usually much farther behind than that. Arg... I gotta go take some asprin I feel my brain cells popping.
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Norrin Radd
Posts: 7
(4/13/2004 9:12:32 AM)
| Re: Re: Re: Forced conditioning of the American sheeple
Quotes from one of my favorite speeches by Ronnie.....
Remarks at the "Prelude to Independence" Celebration in Williamsburg, Virginia
May 30, 1985
The Federal income tax only began in 1913. At that time some strange things happened. When it was being debated in the Congress one man spoke prophetically -- or I should say, very honestly when he said, ``We don't need this tax for government's needs. We need it for government's wants.'' And he was pretty prophetic, but there was another man that was almost laughed out of public life and public office, a Senator who said, ``If we pass this amendment, we may very well see the day when the government could think it could take as much as 10 percent of a person's earnings.'' [Laughter] They thought that was a pretty ridiculous statement........
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It's a system that increasingly treats our earnings as if they were the personal property of the Government, with decent citizens called before the Internal Revenue Service to answer for their income and expenditures and show their papers and their proof in a drama that is as common as it is demeaning. Wasn't there a line a couple of hundred years ago about being safe in your books and your records?
Well, it's a system so utterly complex and ultimately inexplicable that half the time the tax professionals themselves aren't sure what the rules are -- a system that even Albert Einstein is said to have admitted he couldn't begin to fathom. You know, it's said that his hair didn't look that way until after he experienced his first tax form. [Laughter]
It's a system that is antigrowth and antiproductive for it discourages the very virtues that make a man and woman valued contributors to society. You know this if you've ever worked overtime to pay for your child's braces. The money you earn is taxed at so high a rate as to render your extra efforts almost totally without point or profit.
It is, finally, a system whose most serious sin may be its most subtle for it seems so rigged, so unfair, that it corrupts otherwise honest people by encouraging them to cheat.
Thirty and forty years ago you didn't hear people brag at social get-togethers about how they got their tax bill down by exploiting this loophole and engineering that credit. But now you do. And it's not considered bad behavior. After all, goes this thinking, what's immoral about cheating a system that is itself a cheat? That isn't a sin, it's a duty.
Our Federal tax system is, in short, utterly impossible, utterly unjust, and completely counterproductive. It's earned a rebellion, and it's time we rebelled.
"The CFR is the American Branch of a society which originated in England, and which believes that national boundaries should be obliterated, and a one-world rule established." |
Danger
Posts: 1
(5/12/2004 4:49:15 AM)
| Re: Re: Re: Re: Forced conditioning of the American sheeple
The world was not always like it is now......believe it or not, young,innocent people!
The IRS is a criminal organization in Puerto Rico and BATF is their strong arm to enforce collections. Once chased out of the United States as fraudulent, unconstitutional and totally illegal, in the late 30's, they were later called back and asked if they would help with the war effort. We did not, at that time, have a good collection ability.
Well.............they have not left since then! No act of Congress nor any law was ever written to give IRS any jurisdiction in the United States of America. They may NOT put on any forms that they are "Government" in any way shape or form, because they are not.
Only one thing comes to mind. Which Senators are getting rich from the bribes of IRS??? Our Congressmen would never do anything to hurt us unless someone paid through the nose!
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Swedishoo
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Posts: 690
(5/12/2004 5:14:19 AM)
| Re: Forced conditioning of the American sheeple
Welcome to the board Danger, glad you are here.
Years ago a girlfriend and I decided to dig to the core of the IRS and find out who and what they were. We went all over the state going to anti IRS rallies and meetings. We started interviewing ex-IRS agents which was most enlightening to say the least. This one agent told us how "red flagging" works and the key word to use is "No". Very interesting. What I wanted to mention is there was this huge sign mounted on the IRS entrance wall when first walking in... that most sheople walk right past... that states:
"IRS. Our Mission. To encourage and achieve the highest possible degree of voluntary compliance with the tax laws and regulations and to maintain the highest degree of public confidence in the integrity and efficiency of the Service."
Christy ~ Swedishoo
Welcome to the board.
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gar fla
Posts: 148
(5/12/2004 5:26:58 PM)
| Re: Re: Forced conditioning of the American sheeple
IRS -> "I"t "R"eally "S"ucks
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Allen at 5
Posts: 313
(5/12/2004 8:20:06 PM)
| Re: Re: Re: Forced conditioning of the American sheeple
gar fla wrote on 5/12/2004 11:26:58 AM:
IRS -> "I"t "R"eally "S"ucks |
What is REALLY sad is NONE of what they do has any legal basis whatsoever but they get away with it. The "witholding" was a VOLUNTARY tax to aid the war effort that Americans could particpate in IF they chose to during WW-2 it sunset on VJ-Day in 1945, yet the IRSS just kept right on collecting it and the sheepole of the USSA never objected or raised a fuss. No wonder we are in the shape we are now.
Allen
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Swedishoo
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Posts: 690
(5/12/2004 10:13:31 PM)
| Re: Forced conditioning of the American sheeple
Years ago in the state of California there was a good grassroots program called CAT, Citizens Against Taxation. I haven't kept up with them and they may be still operating. At that time, about 10-15 years ago now, almost 50% of the state of California did not pay income tax. The movement was so large, the IRS left them alone. I think I'll check it out to see if they are still intact. Our government really has the masses duped into believing that we have to pay income tax to run the government...which is a huge lie. I don't have a problem with sales tax and property tax...those are taxes that help run our communities, but this income tax scam is just that...a scam.
Christy
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Swedishoo
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Posts: 690
(5/12/2004 10:21:43 PM)
| Re: Re: Forced conditioning of the American sheeple
Hmmm, this is really odd. No where on the Internet is CAT. They used to be huge. Do you remember that time I think it was Jason and I spent all evening looking for "before" pictures of Michael Jackson when he was black, and couldn't find a one? I have this same feeling about CAT. I think Al Gore cleaned up his Internet.
Christy
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Allen at 5
Posts: 313
(5/12/2004 10:31:37 PM)
| Re: Re: Forced conditioning of the American sheeple
Swedishoo wrote on 5/12/2004 4:13:31 PM:
Years ago in the state of California there was a good grassroots program called CAT, Citizens Against Taxation. I haven't kept up with them and they may be still operating. At that time, about 10-15 years ago now, almost 50% of the state of California did not pay income tax. The movement was so large, the IRS left them alone. I think I'll check it out to see if they are still intact. Our government really has the masses duped into believing that we have to pay income tax to run the government...which is a huge lie. I don't have a problem with sales tax and property tax...those are taxes that help run our communities, but this income tax scam is just that...a scam.
Christy |
In Texas, under the Constitution of 1836 (still the ONLY legal one) neither a property tax nor any type sales tax is legal. The government was supposed to be very small and limited and only import duties and taxes that the entire people approved (such as selling bonds) and such were legal to support it- same as with the USA "goobernment".
Allen
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Swedishoo
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Posts: 690
(5/12/2004 10:41:46 PM)
| Texas
Yeah, I'm still waiting for the day when Texas decides to break away from the US. Do you realize how many people will flock there? Clear out your spare bedroom Al, cause I might be coming...lol
Christy
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Allen at 5
Posts: 313
(5/13/2004 1:54:52 AM)
| Re: Texas
Swedishoo wrote on 5/12/2004 4:41:46 PM:
Yeah, I'm still waiting for the day when Texas decides to break away from the US. Do you realize how many people will flock there? Clear out your spare bedroom Al, cause I might be coming...lol
Christy |
I'd love to see it happen, and I'll sure leave the front porch light on for you all.
I'm not in ANY way meaning to toot the horn for Texas, but interestingly enough as I understand it we are recognized as a "captured nation" by the UN. If you go to the State capitol building in Austin and look at the seal in the floor of the rotunda, it doesn't read "State of Texas", it says "Republic of Texas". The building was dedicated in 1879, Texas supposedly became a State of the union in 1845.
We are the ONLY State in the entire US that has it's own completly seperate power grid. We are also the only one that "votes" every two years when the legislature convenes for a new session to remain part of the "Union"- on condition all the lease fees on Federally occupied property are paid.
Allen
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Swedishoo
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(5/13/2004 2:44:16 AM)
| Re: Re: Texas
Interesting Al. I know Texas is a Republic and could feasibly withdraw from the "Union", but I didn't know of the other things you mentioned. Very interesting.
You know, the "names" of words have always fascinated me. Like the Civil War was the battle to preserve the "Union". First thing we think of when hear the term union is that it means the states. But not so if one digs a little deeper. The "Federalist" (another fun word) were fighting to preserve the "Union" to established a supreme authority of a "Federal" government over the states. The CONfederalist were against the "Feds" being over our states, not just the south...but all the states. Now the concept of a strong country being governed by one head is a good one, but not if we didn't know the source of where the "head" was coming from. We were duped then and we are still being duped today. Once Lincoln discovered that the Bank of England was financing the north and the Bank of France (same owners btw) were financing the south, he ended the war immediately. Four days later he was killed. For those of you that know me, know how I'm a firm believer that the Federal Reserve with their fake notes, rule the roost in our world. Not just our monetary system, but over 250 other countries as well. There's the beast.
Christy
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