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gar fla
Posts: 148
(4/4/2004 4:39:49 PM)
| How Ironic
It just never seems to fail. When the US attempts to be the "remedy" for problems in another country, the conditions end up worse than before. When are people going to understand that the "war on drugs" is not only a sham but it's a war that simply can't be won? It's just an example of the meaningless concepts being bought by the ribbon wearing "zero tolerance policy" minded sheeple. I guess anything of genuine substance would be too much for them to handle. Have a look at what's happened to Afghanistan after our "war" over there.......
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4639930/
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Allen at 5
Posts: 313
(4/4/2004 5:12:32 PM)
| Re: How Ironic
One of the main reasons for the "war" to begin with to get the opium poppy production back up again. The Taliban had almost shut it down and that was costing TPTB too much in revenue from the illegal drug trade to be allowed to continue. The pipline issue was just a sideshow to this- the real $s is in the narcotics trade.
Allen
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Swedishoo
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Posts: 690
(4/4/2004 9:44:35 PM)
| Re: How Ironic
Exactly. Before we went into Afghanistan, they had lowered their opium production due to religious and moral conflicts. They were trying to stimulate their economy by not selling opium. Then we go in there and rip apart the few threads of humanity they were hanging on to, which in effect, forced them (because of extreme poverty), to pump up their opium sales again. God, I have this mental picture of BushyBones in a pink fur PIMP hat with skull and bones fringe, grabbing poppy flowers and slapping around the people, saying, I'll be back tomorrow for double of this.
Arg
Christy
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Allen at 5
Posts: 313
(4/4/2004 9:58:30 PM)
| Re: Re: How Ironic
Great visual Christy, and on target. The Afgans had no choice, although they will get the blame, their families are starving to death and they can make many times the money an acre on poppy production vs. any other crop. Remember that the Russell Trust (S&B's "proper" name) was founded in the 19th Century using monies obtained from what? Opium smuggling into China- the drug trade. The Opium Wars which involved British merchants as well led directly to the events which culminated in the Boxer Rebellion of 1900. This whole sick story is old as the hills.
Allen
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gar fla
Posts: 148
(4/4/2004 10:20:35 PM)
| Re: Bushco
Christy, that pimp image is too funny. They call him "Huggy Bush". He steps out of his Cadillac with the skull and bones on the hood and says "We're in control now, BEEATCH!"
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Swedishoo
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(4/5/2004 1:32:17 AM)
| Wearing Rose Colored Glasses
There was this documentry in the late 70's or early 80's called Snow Storm in the Jungle showing how the Columbian government produced, packaged and shipped Cocaine in the United States with the help of our government. It was a wild show.
Reminds me too of this movie...ummm, American something, about how opium was brought in via military during the Vietnam war. Another wild show.
This may sound ignorant of me but I wonder what types of drugs are made with opium, these days. I wouldn't have a clue. Is LSD even made anymore? Everything is so chemical based these days...who knows. Excuse me sir, would you like a little opium tea with that zanax sandwich?
Christy
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gar fla
Posts: 148
(4/5/2004 4:08:53 AM)
| Re: Wearing Rose Colored Glasses
Funny you should mention Xanax. It's one of many "legal" sedative/antidepressant drugs being prescribed to millions. These meds are just as harmful, if not more so, than many hard "street drugs". This is yet another reason why the war on drugs is a big joke. Lets not forget the millions of young children being medicated for this so called ADHD. Some parents have even been forced to put their child on one of these meds or have the kid removed from school. This is hypocrisy at it's best! Contrary to popular belief, LSD never really went away. It used to be legal until 1966. This was after about three years of LSD being a very popular recreational drug. It's sudden illegal status did nothing to stop the spresd of it's use in the late 60s, as we know. Guess who was responsible for the introduction of LSD to our culture. It was actually the "establishment" (a sixties term for TPTB or their followers). in 1959-60, clinical studies were done with LSD on a number of college students. Needless to say, word of this new drug experience spread and the rest is history. If you do a web search for "The Merry Pranksters", you'll find some fascinating info on this. War on drugs? lol!
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Allen at 5
Posts: 313
(4/5/2004 5:01:06 AM)
| Re: Wearing Rose Colored Glasses
Heroine and morphine are both made from opium. Interestingly, heroine was originally intended for battlefield use as a painkiller hence the name- it was called the "hero's drug" by it's discoverers. LSD was used in a lot of experiments on unwitting subjects by both the US military and the CIA all the way back in the 1950s.
The USA has become the Mecca of hypocrisy. The forced medication of children with many drugs like Ritilin that have the same basic properties as Speed on the one hand, and then telling them not to use (illegal) drugs on the other is absolutely insane.
Allen
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Swedishoo
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Posts: 690
(4/6/2004 5:52:08 AM)
| Oooh oooh that smell....can't you smell that smell?
Ed Wray / AP
More than $1 million worth of hashish and poppy burns as Afghan and soldiers of the International Security Assistance Force watch on March 31 in Kabul.
I wonder for how many hours those guys had to "supervise" that bombfire? LOL |
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Swedishoo
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Posts: 690
(4/6/2004 6:01:46 AM)
| Concerta
My friend's 5 year old is on Concerta...like another Ritilin product....or I should say WAS on concerta. One day she was wondering how powerful they were to him and took one. She said she got so wired she couldn't eat or sleep. She said she didn't feel normal until three days later. Now you do the math, how much does a 5 year old weigh in comparison to an adult. Apparently for the child who needs them, they don't get wired but calm, but what about all the children who are on them that do not need them. I'd bet to say, around 90%
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gar fla
Posts: 148
(4/6/2004 7:12:45 AM)
| Re: Concerta
Christy, that is a great observation! This so called "ADHD" is not a true condition or disorder. It's just a list of symptoms which is being used as reason to prescribe these meds. This is a perfect example of "Which came first, the condition or the cure?" I'm now starting to understand why we are now a nation of sheeple. Just think how many millions and millions of adults are being prescribed such drugs as Prozac, Paxil, and Xanax. And you can now see why they have no problem letting their own children be medicated as well. The apples don't fall far from the tree. No wonder we are being slowly raped of our basic freedoms and the average American couldn't care less.
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Swedishoo
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(4/6/2004 8:10:09 PM)
| Re: Re: Concerta
You know, that's something I dont understood. Why on earth would someone want to feel numb to the world....and stay that way? If something horrible happened in your life or you were in pain, okay, then get something prescribed for a while...but to take paxil or whatever just because of stress or normal depression is nuts....take it from me. Now when I say normal depression, I'm talking about the type of depression we all get from time to time, not some sort of brain-chemical disorder where one is suicidal. A few years ago my father and I got into a business dispute (I managed his business for 15 years). Well, I got really depressed and couldn't shake it. So I tried every anti-depressant on the market. What a crock. Those things numb you out. Flat-line....just all one zone. So I told my doctor that I didn't want to mask my emotions, I just want something to make me feel happy. Paxil and the others make you feel nothing, not happy, not sad, NOTHING. So he starting laughing and said, "Oh, so what you want is a happy pill? Well, don't we all." I then realized that being able to determine between your emotions and feel your ups and downs is a GOOD thing. I feel bad for all the sheople walking around us feeling nothing ...with their "chemical libotomy". As an artist, I have to have all of my emotions. When I feel sad, I cry. When I feel happy, I laugh. When I feel mad, I scream. This might sound twisted, but I'm thankful I tried those anti-depressants. It showed me how lucky I am to be able to feel life.
Christy
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Allen at 5
Posts: 313
(4/6/2004 8:33:40 PM)
| Re: Re: Re: Concerta
Christy, did you ever get a chance to read the copy of "A Voyage to Arcturus" I sent you?
Krag is asked what his name on Earth is and he answers: "It is Pain".
Art is nothing without awareness and pain is sometimes part of that. Have you ever read up on the effects of mercury poisoning? Recall "Alice In Wonderland" and the "Mad Hatter"?
There is a bit on the use of drugs in ancient times that I will have to dig up. It related to just what you are talking about.
Allen
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Swedishoo
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(4/6/2004 10:29:09 PM)
| Re: Concerta
"Christy, did you ever get a chance to read the copy of "A Voyage to Arcturus" I sent you?"
No I haven't, but after you posted this, I went and got it out. Talk about weird. The very first page I opened the book to was the one you were quoting.
Paraphrasing... pain is greater than pleasure and love is greater than pain, and "nothing" is greater than love. Indeed, a deep thought.
Christy
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Allen at 5
Posts: 313
(4/6/2004 11:37:23 PM)
| Re: Re: Concerta
Welcome to Atlantis...
Allen
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