I pulled this entire thread off Greggie-poo's board. Very interesting. I'm trying to make some sense of it. I was going to post over there in reply to the politcial comments, then Bill began posting some of Whitmajikman's (aka, Shawn) quotes. Verry intersting. What do you guys think of this? "Something" is here, but I can't pin-point it.

guntoter tester of water <SCRIPT>stars(1) Global user Registered: 01-2004 Posts: 26

A hard question for the anti war crowd You know with the beloved one year since the beautiful Iraqi invasion by our heroic American military the anti war idiots are still shouting their slogans on how war is bad and the such, and we need to bring the troops home. I have one question but to ask of them, Is there any reason or situtation that you would back a military invasion? What would your circumstances be to go to war? So far it wouldn't be a dictator who murders his own people by the thousands. Or maybe to oust an evil leader who invaded a smaller country or how about for regional stability? If none of these then what? I know it's more than one question but I couldn't help myself. I bet no anti war person can give a good answer to these simple little social study type questionares. I think the anti war crowd much like I think of these foolish mortals. http://www.ebaumsworld.com/antiameri.html Last edited by guntoter, 3/22/04, 9:04 pm

3/22/04, 9:03 pm

whitemajikman master of craft <SCRIPT>stars(3) Global user Registered: 01-2004 Posts: 176

Re: A hard question for the anti war crowd Guntoter im going to take a stab at this...... It is time to go to war when all other avenues of resolution have been explored and rejected. It is time to go to war when you know beyond a shadow of doubt who your enemy is,The terrorist's who bombed the wtc were of saudi descent. why are we in Iraq? and not bombing the saudi's?The reason is quite simple really, because of mecca and the implications that would arise from mecca's destruction. It is time to go to war when there truly is a threat with real evidence of said threat. To this day our own governments have failed to provide suffecient evidence and have refused to do so repeatedly citing national security as the reason for not making public their findings. If the anti-war crowd and more importantly the rest of the public were given the straight facts they might just change their minds regarding what they see as a sham. Until there is full disclosure there will always be the question of ethics and what has motivated not the public, but the highest levels of government to proclaim war. You must also realize that this war unlike all the rest benefits no one but the agressor and has become a war of religious philosophy and in the end will damage the entire global peace process. what is interesting tho is that while we are fighting a mock war .....Putin has been relected and is now the head of a one party state which is run by former kgb intelligence experts. Just like our own shadow government who took power with the fall of the oss,and continues to dictate foreign policy. Lets be honest guntoter to rid the world of muslim terrorist's you would have to commit genocide........are you willing to kill all potential terrorist's based upon a threat that has no substance,other than we are told they are evil and a threat to our very survival.......where is the proof? Adolph Hitler was used as a purveyor of genocide by the war profiteers many of which were americans ......The jews are a prime example of what happens to a people who have been hunted and repressed almost there entire existence.They have become a war mongering state which does not recognize international law but gets away with it because of their past repression. You must remember that there was a country which was called palestine before the end of ww2.What happened to it?It was annexed by the u.n. to the jews. but what is interesting is that the jews were nomadic and really didnt have land of their own . Who got the short end of the stick and is still paying for it to this day.....? The palestinians who no longer have a country called palestine because the U.N......said so......put yourself into their shoes. What would you be doing right now....?

3/23/04, 3:09 pm

LTC8K6 Administrator Global user Registered: 01-2004 Location: Directly under a chemtrail. Posts: 387

Re: A hard question for the anti war crowd Well, I wouldn't be blowing up busloads of grocery shoppers, students, blue collar workers, children, and the odd Palestinian who got on the wrong bus! Way to slide in the anti-semitism, WMM. Trying to cause board trouble? --- You can straighten a worm, but the crook is in him and only waiting. Some instinct tells me that eternal vigilance is the price of supremacy. Mark Twain

3/23/04, 3:54 pm

whitemajikman master of craft <SCRIPT>stars(3) Global user Registered: 01-2004 Posts: 176

Re: A hard question for the anti war crowd Sorry LTC, but your full of shit because you would do anything, and I do mean anything, to preserve your way of life and your families, to say you wouldnt is ludicrous on your part. What do you think the war on terrorism is all about...?Its about trying to preserve the American way of life. And what you deem anti-semetic does not concern me. Want to know why....?Because I and my wife are both Jewish you moron......are you? If not ....Drop the anti-semite rant for my observations are true ............until you have lived like a jew .....who are you to Judge....?

3/23/04, 7:43 pm

guntoter tester of water <SCRIPT>stars(1) Global user Registered: 01-2004 Posts: 26

Re: A hard question for the anti war crowd quote Lets be honest guntoter to rid the world of muslim terrorist's you would have to commit genocide........are you willing to kill all potential terrorist's based upon a threat that has no substance,other than we are told they are evil and a threat to our very survival.......where is the proof? Yes I would be willing to commit genocide if the terroristic threat did not cease at once. As far as having substance I encourage you to pick up a quoran and read through hadith 3, 57 and read surah 9, 12. This is the fundelmentalist beleif of muslims. They swear not to quit until the entire world submits to their ways, looking forward to their ways aren't you? The ones that are currently in America and live peaceful I have no trouble with as long as they don't start feeling the need for a jihad. You have to cut the head off the snake. My policy would be that if there was one more terrorist attack on the U.S. I'd nuke Mecca (their holy city) into ashes for starters, I do think the silly islamic movement might back down when they know were serious. Last edited by guntoter, 3/23/04, 8:45 pm

3/23/04, 8:44 pm

LTC8K6 Administrator Global user Registered: 01-2004 Location: Directly under a chemtrail. Posts: 387

Re: A hard question for the anti war crowd What was that you were saying, Whitey? quote: Here is a bit of wisdom for all you non-believers.........ive only been posting here for a little over 2 weeks...........but my esteemed colleagues.....have been posting here for months.....trying to let you in on the big secret behind chemtrails.............most of my colleagues work at haarp and designed the chemical composition that makes up chemtrails......but thats another story..........what im about to do goes against my better judgement............all of you chemtrail debunkers indirectly work for me and my esteemed colleagues and im sick and tired of all the bullshit and irrational thought that has come about regarding my research ....so in light of all you naysayers.........i propose this................all of you get together and come up with a concensus of what proof you would deem fit to finally lay to rest chemtrails forever.......once you have that concensus............i will provide all proof........including manifests,names of chemical companies which knowingly supply the chemicals,research data from haarp and its chemtrail experimentation,names of all politicians both canadian and american who know whats going on,high-resolution sattelite imagery of jets releasing their chemtrails with both canadian and american insignia,the true purpose of chemtrails,security camera footage of the inner workings of haarp.......and the most important piece of the puzzle...... some of the people among you who recieve large amounts of money to keep this forum up and running........now im talking there real names,birthdates,backgrounds,whom they really work for and what exactly there main directives are.........i told you all previously that i am well known in many circles......and by the way the only kooks there are on this forum are the debunkers that spend all their time living a lie............now is the time for reality at its finest.................will you take my challenge or will you all run and hide...........thats the big question..........oh and banning me from this sight will not work........either im a free man......always have been..........there is not a security protocol that i cant crack.............it was part of my extensive education............so..........do you all have the guts or will you run............... quote: LTC....WHAT WAS YOUR INTENTION OF BRINGING THIS BACK UP......TO SHOW MY HYPOCRISY........OK.....IM GUILTY BUT I AM ONLY HUMAN .....AND AT LEAST I CAN ADMIT THAT I WAS HYPOCRITICAL IN THE DEBATE SURROUNDING CHEMTRAILS.......NOW.......QUIT TRYING TO RUN STATIC FOR STUART YOU HAVE NO IDEA OF THE MINDSET OF THIS VERY SICK INDIVIDUAL........BUT YOU ALL WILL BE SHOWN HOW HE IS A CHARLATAN,AND A DECIEVER.....AND IF I CANT DO IT......I KNOW SEVERAL CLERGYMAN WHO CAN......I AM WILLING TO GO THE DISTANCE ON THIS ONE,SO BRING IT ON......STUART IS ABOUT TO BE UNMASKED.......AND THEIR IS NO ONE WHO CAN HELP HIM.........NOT YOU ,OR ANYONE ELSE ON THIS BOARD......FOR HE IS BEING JUDGED,AS HE HAS JUDGED.........NO MAN IS BEYOND SCRUTINY....... quote: what did you think i would just reveal all too a forum.....skeptics or not.......the problem in this room is lack of real knowledge......all i see is speculation.....and judgement without looking at the facts.....and the facts are all there for anyone to find and investigate ,what i mean by this is go to these people/places and investigate i met mr.Hutchinson 4 years ago and seen for myself what he proclaims.....and the funny thing is where i met him.........at haarp.....where i was doing my own research into scalar electromagnetics....the only thing you accomplish by criticizing without real investigation is chaos and loss of true knowledge.thx for the help.In the next 3 months i will make available a location ,time and date if you have the intestinal fortitude to make the journey you can see for yourself that what i claim is truth beyond reasoning.......and if not i'm truly sorry to have had correspondence with a bunch of sheople......who proclaim to know what they are talking about...........when in fact they hide behind skepticsm to shield their fear of the truth. quote: here is a pretty good picture of a plane releasing its chemtrail......and also the other links on this link .....can provide you with the proof that chemtrails are not an internet hoax........but a very real phenomena......enjoy....sincerely the whitemajikmanwww.geocities.com/wondersoftheinternet/chemtrails.html quote: as soon as you post yours chickiedeb.........ill be happy to post my credentials........ill give you a little hint tho.....i am a rhoades scholar.........and have several degrees......from three of the top learning institutions in the world.....i am not afraid to put my name out on too a posting board.....so as soon as you post your degrees on this board mine will follow then you can begin investigating my long and varied career as i will yours.......but i fear as always.......you will not comply with reasoning.......you will either ban me.......or you will come up with some other excuse why you cant post your credentials.........so......it begs for questioning are you willing to take me up on this offer or not?.......it all comes down to responsibility.......are you responsible enough in your judgement to finally know the truth about me.......and of course there is the other question that remains unanswered to you have the intestinal fortitude to stand by your attacks............without showing any shred of proof that you are qualified in making all the assumptions.......you have previously made..............only time will tell.........sincerely the whitemajikman........ quote: msc from m.i.t.......phd from oxford......and several other associate degrees.............all before i was 25........also....your belief that chemtrails do not exist goes against the findings of the world meteorological society......which has studied the phenomena........for the last 15 years...............what you must consider is this.....if we can seed clouds........how far of a leap is it to surmise that instead of iodine.......barium sulphate is being substituted .It would seem to me that it would be very simple to do ....even at high altitudes .......but i think what has been lost on all of the debate is the question of "why"...........that i can answer......haarp on their official website.......a government website...........states that barium sulphate is indeed being used to promote the effects of haarp's experimentation.......so i conclude that the chem trails everybody is trying to debunk here do in fact exist......and are a part of the experimentation that is needed for the haarp project to succeed.........end of conspiracy.........except for one huge fact.......barium sulphate is very toxic....and causes numerous health problems..........and it is being used daily.......at concentrations far exceeding the safe limit.......what you all should be asking yourselves is who gave the government permission to use such a device without public and enviromental controls in place..........that is where the real conspiracy........starts. Last edited by LTC8K6, 3/23/04, 10:47 pm --- You can straighten a worm, but the crook is in him and only waiting. Some instinct tells me that eternal vigilance is the price of supremacy. Mark Twain

3/23/04, 10:46 pm

whitemajikman master of craft <SCRIPT>stars(3) Global user Registered: 01-2004 Posts: 176	Re: A hard question for the anti war crowd
3/24/04, 1:46 am

Lord seeker Administration <SCRIPT>stars(7) Global user Registered: 01-2004 Location: sit on it potsy ! Posts: 981

Re: A hard question for the anti war crowd msc from m.i.t.......phd from oxford......and several other associate degrees.............all before i was 25 yeah buddy...but I had a mustache at age 14...and could bury a 30 foot jumper with my eyes closed... still can not to mention my finger roll... if there's one thing I could do...it's finger roll --- why do they call it golf ?... because all the other 4 letter words are taken

3/24/04, 2:12 am

whitemajikman master of craft <SCRIPT>stars(3) Global user Registered: 01-2004 Posts: 176	Re: A hard question for the anti war crowd And to this day It has never been debunked..... Some debunker you are LTC.
3/24/04, 12:28 pm

LTC8K6 Administrator Global user Registered: 01-2004 Location: Directly under a chemtrail. Posts: 387	Re: A hard question for the anti war crowd Self debunking items are just that. No effort required. --- You can straighten a worm, but the crook is in him and only waiting. Some instinct tells me that eternal vigilance is the price of supremacy. Mark Twain
3/24/04, 2:47 pm

yes, the mirrors...too many similarities to count.

The efforts are mind boggling to me.

Christy