Author | Comment | Swedishoo Admin Posts: 690 (3/27/2004 8:04:15 PM)
| Low-Level Chemtrails
joe_ buckshot [guest] from Chemtrail and Company III |
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your board- |
Posted 8-1-2001 23:13 |
Christy, You have done a very good job on your new board. It is nice to see that you also cover other area of interest that sometimes get dropped on other boards. I hope I can post here when I get more information that is news worthy. Being a air force and vietnam vet I need and want all the truth to come out on what is being done to the air and how we are being made to suffer by the tptb. I pray that anyone who is active air force that is reading this board will take it to their soul and fess up to what they are doing to the people of this country. God Bless, joe buckshot (Remember-Freedom!!!) | |
kilohana from Chemtrail and Company III |
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Have you observed spraying? |
Posted 8-2-2001 03:20 |
Joe B, I don't ask this to be cynical, but I was wondering if you might have evidence, as an Airforce officer, of aerial spraying? Do you have any first-hand observations or are you speculating?
I ask these questions sincerly, because it sounds like you may be talking from first hand evidence. Please let us know.
Thanks in advance for your answer, and thanks for your service to this country. | |
joe_buckshot [guest] from Chemtrail and Company III |
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pictures i have taken- |
Posted 8-2-2001 23:01 |
Hello, If you go to-www.lindaaliberti.com/ladle.html- you will find pictures that I and my wife took up in Colorado near the south side of Denver. We also have video tapes with zoom lens. The jet in the video turns it's chemtrails on and off and on and off. Can't do that with ice vapors. I have talked to air force personal- active duty. Mum is the word when I confront them with the chemtrails issue. Off the record I have been told to stay inside if I can. Certain personel who have families will not talk because they are scared harm from "the powers that be" might take if they were to talk forth right. Then there are those personal who do not give a #$#%%^^$*&^%-and have sold their souls for power and the richs of this world. There are pilots from other countries who fly planes for "the powers that be". Germans are up in the air over u.s. air space doing the duty for the N.W.O. Well that enough to think about tonight. Sleep well sleeping sheep- Big Brother is watching over you- joe buckshot- remember "FREEDOM" | |
Swedishoo from Chemtrail and Company III |
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Joe Buckshot ~ Welcome |
Posted 8-3-2001 02:39 |
Joe, Welcome to our forum, glad to have you here. Please join, I'm sure we would have many questions to ask. I took a peek of your pictures. Awesome shots. I too have an on and off photo I've got to scan. You just wouldn't believe your eyes. Below I re-posted your page URL and your photos to share here, However, I have a question for you. What do/did you do in the AF and how do military personnel react when you speak about chemtrails. I know you say mums the word, but what are the reactions? What about the reactions of the pencil pushers, office people, filers etc?
Chemtrails From Colorado
Christy ~ Swedishoo [ This message was edited by: Swedishoo on: 8-3-2001 02:39 ] | |
kilohana from Chemtrail and Company III |
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Wow! |
Posted 8-3-2001 07:04 |
All those photos are amazing, but that first one in particular is like nothing I've seen outside an airshow.
I don't see how those could be commercial flights, even if those were normal contrails. That definately looks like a formation to me. | |
JK from Chemtrail and Company III |
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your board (photos) |
Posted 8-3-2001 23:16 |
Hi Christy, pretty neat board. If you want to see some really cool low level shots, ask Christy to put up some of the ones I took of "trails" over my house on June 2, 1999. And NO, I don't think it is government or other "spraying".
See ya!
JK | |
Swedishoo from Chemtrail and Company III |
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Houston Photos |
Posted 8-4-2001 00:57 |
John is that you!?! So glad to see you.
It's been many moons.
I have these photos labeled May of 2000. These are awesome shots and very low trails. The one shows a trail next to a Fair Weather Cumulus, which form between 8000-15000 feet. Also included in these shots are the famous patterns of tictactoe boards and huge X's.
Christy
| | | Swedishoo Admin Posts: 690 (3/27/2004 8:06:39 PM)
| Re: Low-Level Chemtrails
kilohana from Chemtrail and Company III |
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Military Formation |
Posted 8-4-2001 01:11 |
If we put aside the issue of chemtrails versus contrails for a moment, wouldn't the first photo of Joe B's have to be a military formation?
I can't imagine an air traffic controller clearing that many passenger airliners into the same airspace, that close together in altitude and distance, at the same time. | |
garflorida from Chemtrail and Company III |
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Don't think it is spraying? |
Posted 8-4-2001 01:38 |
JK, I'm sure you know that the proper conditions have to exist for a contrail to persist. On many days with heavy persistent "contrails", the local soundings indicate relative humidity levels of only 20% to 50% at flight altitudes above 20,000ft. | |
Swedishoo from Chemtrail and Company III |
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Formation |
Posted 8-4-2001 02:10 |
Kilohana,
They're in formation alright, and it's clear they are not passenger jets. Matter of fact, none of the jets in question with the Chemtrail issue are passenger jets.
Being that the formation plumes (in pic above) have a break in them that very well could be atmospheric conditions, none the less an interesting picture showing military formation, most likely I'm assuming, out of their juridiction. Joe, you said these were over your neigborhood?? How did they dissipate?
I have to get my picture scanned. It's also a formation picture of abut 5 or 6 jets, with on and off spray. But you got to see this to believe it. It will baffle the brightest. Went right over my house!!! I swear it was some sort of CODE...like a Morse Code. There is no way anyone can say these are air pockets.
Christy | |
JK from Chemtrail and Company III |
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Your board (photos) |
Posted 8-4-2001 02:11 |
Howdy Christy, Yep, it's me... As to the humidity bit, quite true, but it still doesn't mean it is "spraying". Is something odd going on? Absolutely. Now as to WHAT that is, that is an open question. I have to thank Christy for putting my shots up. These really DON'T do that day justice. It was an AMAZING day for me. As far as I have been able to learn, nobody saw ANY aircraft lay these down, only the 'trails". They are much lower than the photos make them seem. The apex of the "triangle" led directly into the afternoon sun, in a SINGLE thick trail.... Now THAT is a real good trick! The entire vault of the sky was covered with trails, and they persisted until the light faded at sundown. I have seen many amazing things in the local sky before, and since, but this day is one of the few times I was able to photo some of it. SOME of the things I have seen would defy my ability to express in words, and I would never mention outside someone I really trusted.
JK |
JK from Chemtrail and Company III |
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Photo date |
Posted 8-4-2001 02:17 |
Christy,
I think that is the date I sent you the hardcopies. The day I took them was a Wednesday, in Spring or so 1999, I'll have to go back and check (I usually log all my shots), but I think it was first week in June.
JK | |
joe buckshot [guest] from Chemtrail and Company III |
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Jets and such-- |
Posted 8-4-2001 04:26 |
Hello, Thank you Christy for posting the pictures. The picture with the six jets was on a sunday after Easter in 2000. The jets were flying over Littleton,Colorado. The trails did not dissipate, they slowly grew together to form one misty cloud. Yuck!! And the jets were not flying to an air show. They had no business over that area. It is just homes and very small shopping centers in that area. As far as the people interviewed from the air force, 95% for the personal acted like Daa? What Daa? The other 5% know something and some are scared to death. The most knowing personal are the pilots plus flight crews. Tower personal have some background information on who flying and why. I was told by them to mind what questions I asked. Roaches run when you put light on them!! My background in the air force was as air combat security Police. I had army grunt training before I went to Vietnam. There I rode atop a Armored Personel Carrier as a machinegunner with a m60 machinegun. Before going to Vietnam I was with Strategic Air Command. The 509th Bomber group out for Pease afb.in New Hampshire. The 509th move up to Pease from New Mexico. You know the Roswell 509th-- After Vietnam I was station and worked up at N. O. R. A. D. Inside Cheyenne Mountain! To answer someone elses question. I was a N.C. O. I had one college degree, they wanted me to become an officer and a gentleman. With Vietnam in my mind I did not stay in. But I have friends still in the service who I am in regular contact with. Also I was given pictures of the Germans at Hollman Afb. Check out sometime and see who flys what planes where out of Hollman. And one last note. Christy I will join this board as soon as I get a chance- God Bless everyone- joe buckshot- Remember( FREEDOM!!) | |
kilohana from Chemtrail and Company III |
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Look, in the sky it's a contrail or chemtrail? Or neither? |
Posted 8-4-2001 05:04 |
JK, I'm a bit puzzled by what you are implying. If it's not spraying, they would have to be normal contrails, wouldn't they? And if they are not either contrails or chemtrails, what do you speculate they might be?
Personally, I'd say it has to be one or the other, but Christy is right; Those aircraft are most probably in a military formation. Looks like a bomber formation, or formation of heavy aircraft to me.
Tankers maybe? | |
JK from Chemtrail and Company III |
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Your board (photos) |
Posted 8-4-2001 13:09 |
In no sense do I mean they are normal contrails. However, just because they aren't doesn't automatically mean they are "spraying" either. The answer may well lie in one of possibly several other directions.
JK | |
kilohana from Chemtrail and Company III |
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Other Directions? |
Posted 8-4-2001 16:12 |
So you said JK.
BUt what I'm interested in is what you think these "other directions" might be. Care to share your theory? You must have some theory or you wouldn't have said this?
The only other thing I can think of is sky-writing, but I don't suppose they'd be skwriting outside an air show. And if it's not spraying, as you seem so sure, then it must be contrails, right? If you're absolutely certain that it is not chemtrails, then what makes you so cetain it these are not just normal contrails?
I've never seen anybody, whether debunking this stuff or true believer, say it's not one or the other. | |
JK from Chemtrail and Company III |
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Your Board (Photos) |
Posted 8-4-2001 18:05 |
As to the last line of your last post; Well you have now. Since I am neither one, now you have something new to deal with. Dr. Jacques Vallee once made the astute observation in one of his books regarding "UFOs" that:
1. The majority of the general population regard them as unreal, or "nonsense". (This figure is shrinking every year, by the by).
OR,
2. They think they are real, and "alien spacecraft".
The evidence indicates the UFO phenomenon is quite genuine. As Dr. Vallee asked "Does it therefore necessarily follow that they are alien spacecraft?" The answer is of course not. Just because it is not one of two apparent choices mean it absolutely HAS to be the other one. There may be a third, fourth, or MANY other choices, outside the proffered ones... Stop being a lab rat. Since all these boards function as an intelligence gathering tool for the spooks, it will be a LONG time before I will EVER state here, or anywhere else what I think is going one with this. I don't worry over any of it anyway.
JK
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