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| The Usama
| JK from Chemtrail and Company III |
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| The Usama |
 Posted 12-16-2001 00:11 |
In case you all haven't figured this out yet (I am
pretty sure the readers of this board have), this is a
test piece, pure and simple. The flaws in it are
intentional.
It was "released" ONLY to gauge public reaction to
it, nothing more. The CNN poll that shows one in
three Americans DON'T buy into it was likely
expected also by the powers that be.
It was so embarassing, that CNN is now trying to
"spin" that 1/3rd out to be " the Moslem reaction".
Tough to do, when it was a general poll, which
THEY conducted without regard to religious, or
ethnic, etc. values, or so they claim.
What that means of course, in any event, is that the
other 2/3rds of America is as dumb as a sock full
of sand, and things are proceeding as the "elite"
have hoped, but not quite as smoothly as wished.
They are after all, NOT Gods, and they DO make
errors. They will continue to, and it will ultimately
bring them and their dreams crashing to the
ground forever in the end.
Al
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| JK from Chemtrail and Company III |
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| I am grateful |
Posted 12-16-2001 00:31 |
I haven't found anyone so far that believes it either.
I am thankful that just MAYBE there is some hope
for humanity yet!
The WTC had several facets, one of which was
mass human sacrifice by fire, just as Waco was
(and other American examples over the past few
years, up 'till today), and just as several areas in
Afganistan have recently been, the latter via fuel/air
munitions.
These people, MURDER people Folks, and ENJOY
doing it, remember that well. The MORE, the
better, but ONLY if at the correct grid point, and at
the proper time. It is the same as a nuclear
explosion, or controlled fusion or fission reaction: it
either is detonated or occurs at the proper time
and place on the Grid, or it is wasted energy, or
doesn't happen at all.
The people who stage manage all this understand
this VERY well.
Al
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| Swedishoo from Chemtrail and Company III |
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| Waking Up from the Bush Dream |
Posted 12-16-2001 02:42 |
It makes me sick.
Mandy, you're right. The clintoon buffoon's lies used to be so good that they were actually a form of entertainment. This crap going on now makes me sick. I thought, hmm, we had to put up with a clown for 8 years. I expected Bush to be a little bit crooked (nothing compared to his dad) but I guess I was wrong...he's alot crooked (just like his dad and maybe worse). Coming out with this tape is a pathetic stunt that even made the Bush diehard supporters wake up.
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| JK from Chemtrail and Company III |
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| Sadness |
Posted 12-16-2001 03:18 |
I TRIED to warn all of you here, before he was
"elected" just what Junior Bushster was, and I am
NOT trying to say "I told you so!".
These are HARD, SAD times, for ALL of us, and
they are going to get a LOT worse before they get a
shade of being better.
GW IS a Bonesman, he will likely remain so. He is
SHARP, just as I said he was, ALL evil on the
human level is. He will also ultimately destroy
himself, his entire family, and what is left of this
nation, if he is allowed to continue on the path he
is now on. That CANNOT be changed, save by him,
and others who are of the same path, changing
their ways. Will that happen?
Unfortunately, probably not, before it is really too
late. Time is short, and it is getting shorter with
each second that passes by.
Al
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| ts from Chemtrail and Company III |
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| your boy floated this thread.... |
Posted 12-16-2001 04:33 |
.....elsewhere...I'd have to say Al, I disagree with the assertion that the tape is a fake...
first of all...
all the folks are who they pertain to be in the video...
the audio, is grainy because most camcorders mic's are located at the unit and are crap...
the hand gestures seem to coincide with the language used...
what is so fake about it ?
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| JK from Chemtrail and Company III |
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| What isn't? |
Posted 12-16-2001 14:08 |
There are articles all over the 'net about this, so I
don't feel it necessary to type an extensive reply.
Here is just one good link, there are many more:
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/osamatape.ht
ml
For one thing, it is a video tape, which means it is
digitized, which in turn means that it can be altered
via computer by anyone with the skills and intent to
do so. Second, it's source (the U.S. Government) is
far from credible, a list of just the recent lies out of
them, would take two or three pages here.
The idea that Usama bin Laden, would be smart
enough to mastermind the "9/11 operation", and
then have been stupid enough to have made this
tape, PLUS allow it to conveniently fall right into the
hands of the very people he was alleged to be
plotting against, knowing it would be used against
him, is ludicrous as best. Look at all the "evidence"
the supposed hijackers left scattered around
behind them like a trail of breadcrumbs, more of
the same deception here.
The tape is a hoax, no different than the old photo
of Lee Harvey Oswald holding the Carcano rifle
allegedly used to shoot JFK.
Al
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| Notice Cheney is NO where to be seen!!!! |
Posted 12-16-2001 15:03 |
bush is the front man, cheney is putting all this together quiet fast behind the scene. They are attempting to stop NESARA from ever being announced.
The clintoon team proved to be just a bunch of unorganized criminals, thank God. The bush team is alot smarter lots more organized trying to put us into the one world government. However, they are running out of time.
Looks like the massive team who is preparing to implement NESARA is proving to be extremely aggressive. It also looks like this team has taken the gloves off so to speak. Look out for anyone that gets in their way, Thank God.
I began to wake up early on as far as bushster was concerned. First was the education bill, the massive size, along with more commie government's hands in the school system way to much. Next was the 'The Medical Privacy Act' a clintoon left-over that the repubs would NOT pass. bush made tommy gun thompson push it through. We had 10 days to write, call, email our opinions on it. There was a huge petition sent in with lots and lots of signatures. It was counted as ONE SIGNATURE for some very lam reason. bush made congress pass this act. Now that's when I began the turn, knowing bush was a total liar. He fooled all us conservatives...and never intented to be what he put himself out to be. When WTC op happened, it took me a few weeks to come to the realization that this administration was as corrupt if not more than the clintoon administration. My bush dream had ended long before WTC op.
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| ts from Chemtrail and Company III |
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| a reply... |
Posted 12-16-2001 23:22 |
>>>For one thing, it is a video tape, which means it is digitized,<<<<
not necessarily, some camcorders are not digital, mine is not...(8mm tape)
>>>it's source (the U.S. Government) is
far from credible,<<<
from what I understand, the northern alliance found the tape...
>>>>The idea that Usama bin Laden, would be smart
enough to mastermind the "9/11 operation", and
then have been stupid enough to have made this
tape, PLUS allow it to conveniently fall right into the
hands of the very people he was alleged to be
plotting against, knowing it would be used against
him, is ludicrous as best. Look at all the "evidence"
the supposed hijackers left scattered around
behind them like a trail of breadcrumbs, more of
the same deception here.<<<<
problem here is you are equating our morals standards to theirs...bin laden could careless about evidence left behind...they were going for a islam awareness tour...and they did just that...
do a little research on bin laden, besides being rich, he's educated, especially in construction of building, and that knowledge is at the center of this wtc arguement...
>>>The tape is a hoax,<<<
I disagree....and good to talk to you again Al...
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| JK from Chemtrail and Company III |
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| Usama tape |
Posted 12-17-2001 00:26 |
Most of them ARE though. And since it IS a video
tape, and not hard copy film, and it has not been
subjected to verification as to being what it claims
to be by at least two independent, outside sources,
it's authenticity is dubious at best.
As for the "evidence" left behind bit by Moslems,
that assertion is nonsensical. The intent was quite
clear: to implicate in the public mind certain
groups whom those who actually carried out the
operation (or caused it to be so) wished to be
blamed for it. This is straight out of "The Art of War",
and "The Prince".
NO Moslem benefits from the events of Sept. 11
that is a fact, bin Laden included. The ONLY ones
who do are the U.S. Government, which expands
it's power worldwide multi-fold, the State of Israel,
and the multi-national corporations who supply
arms and related equipment to all parties
concerned.
Follow the money...
"By way of deception shalt thou do war."
The above is the motto of the Israeli Mossad.
I have done a lot of looking at Usama.
The fact that bin Laden was (likely STILL IS, a CIA
asset) should raise a red flag in everyone's mind
regarding this, so should his family's business
ties to the Bush clan. His older brother (GW's
business partner) was killed here in Texas in an
ultra-light plane "accident" a few years ago.
The tape was "found" by an unamed individual, he
may well have been a member of the so called
"Northern Alliance" (they are the guys that grow all
the dope, remember Folks?), he also might well
(IF "he" exists at all), be someone's intelligence
operative, and it is in the same catagory as the
alleged hijacker's passport that survived the plane
crash into the WTC, and was found in plain sight,
and unscathed 3 blocks from the scene. It is
another deception, and if you believe it great, I
don't, neither does 1/3rd of America, if the poll CNN
did is at all accurate.
It is no wonder it was not released in the early days
of this fiasco, had it been, Bush's support for his
"terror war" (Boy, is that well named!), would have
evaporated in Congress overnight.
If it was so convincing, why wait to release it until
the opponents in Afganistan are nearly defeated?
I can tell you why; look at the 33% of America that
doesn't buy it, that's why. You can imagine what the
rest of the world thinks. We'll see where the reality
lies in the end, but I seriously doubt it will be found
in this so called "evidence".
I haven't even touched on all the anomalies of the
collapse of the WTC towers; this is a subject all it's
own, and like like the collapse of the Silver Bridge
at Pt. Pleasant, West Virginia in 1967, there is LOT
more going on here than the surface accounts
relate.
Good talking to you too.
Al
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| "the tape" |
Posted 12-17-2001 03:05 |
>>>"You are equating our morals standards with theirs ....Bin Laden could care less about the evidence left behind."<<<... What? You can't equate morality with IQ. If he cared enough about details to plan and carry out the events of Sept. 11 with out our knowledge, do you HONESTLY believe that he would just leave this piece of evidence to be found? As you've said. "Denial is not just a river."There is an EPIDEMIC of denial in this country. | |
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| JK [guest] from Chemtrail and Company III |
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| Yep... |
Posted 12-17-2001 03:41 |
Bingo...
The only reason this tape would exist at all, and be
"found" as it was, is because it was intentionally
created and planted, so that it would be. In just the
same way the alleged hijackers of 9/11 went out of
their way to leave "clues" behind as to whom they
wanted people to believe they were, and why they
were doing what they supposedly did, so this is
another facet of a web of deception. The copy of the
Koran left behind on a barstool, and the
intructional video tape (in Arabic yet) on how to fly
an airliner, planted in the rental car are just two
more examples of this.
Al | |
| ts from Chemtrail and Company III |
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| if's and butts... |
Posted 12-17-2001 05:50 |
ain't candy and nuts...I have to side with occam's razor...yes the things left behind are curious, but do not indicate in themselves that the wtc was anything other than bin laden's baby...
a day or so after the tragedy, Bush teared up on national tv when talking about the life loss...hardly the *stuff* of a man that could participate in a calculated covert government plan...
sorry...I'm not buyin'
g'ster | |
| JK from Chemtrail and Company III |
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| Not selling anything... |
Posted 12-17-2001 13:15 |
Oh please...
He IS a Bonesman, and they are consumate
actors. They will do or say anything, if it is required
to further the aims of the Order, including tear-up
on cue.
This is the same guy that made the statement
about watching a video of the FIRST airliner hitting
the building, while he was at the school, reading to
the children. That video didn't surface until many
hours later, in other words, he was caught in a flat
out lie.
This whole thing is a LONG way from being
Usama's "baby". He likely is STILL a Company
asset, and neither he nor any other Moslem
would benefit from the events of 9/11, as Moslems.
That is a fact. Many others do though, and that is
where one looks first IF really interested in finding
out the truth of the matter. Follow the money. Note
that Uncle Sugar missed "getting" him again at
Tora Bora. BIG surprise there. Uncle has a LOT
invested in ol' bin Laden. The longer he can be
kept up and useable, the better. The LAST thing
Uncle wants is to kill or capture him. Skip over to
Iraq, and take a look at another CIA set up job in
the personage of Saddam. He isn't dead, or out of
power either, and he won't be until it suits events to
have it so.
Occam's Razor hardly favors the explanation you
espouse either; there are just too many
inconsistent pieces to try and jam into the puzzle to
make that work.
As John A . Keel once wrote : "Occam must have
had a beard".
Here is another little link, for those interested:
http://www.angelfire.com/ab6/waragainstislam/con
tradiction.htm
Al
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| 911 Attack.....folks get your blinders off!!! |
Posted 12-17-2001 16:00 |
SCRAMBLED MESSAGES
by George Szamuely
[Posted 14 December 2001]
Reprinted from the "New York Press"
=======================================
There remains one question to ask about Sept. 11. What happened? We
know the story. Terrorists hijacked four passenger jets. At 8:45
a.m., American Airlines Flight 11 from Boston smashes into the World
Trade Center's north tower. At 9:03 a.m., United Airlines Flight 175
from Boston smashes into the south tower. At 9:40 a.m., AA Flight 77
from Dulles hits the Pentagon. At 10:10 a.m., United Flight 93 from
Newark crashes in Shanksville, PA. (1)
Yet the most amazing feature of the U.S. government's response to
these events was the almost complete absence of it. Jared Israel on
his website www.tenc.net has blazed a trail with fascinating and
meticulous research. (2)
Initial reports suggested that no aircraft were scrambled to
intercept or shoot down the hijacked jets. Two days later Air Force
Gen. Richard B. Myers, current chairman of the Joint Chiefs, told the
Senate Armed Services Committee: "When it became clear what the
threat was, we did scramble fighter aircraft, AWACs, radar aircraft
and tanker aircraft to begin to establish orbits in case other
aircraft showed up in the FAA system that were hijacked... That
order, to the best of my knowledge, was after the Pentagon was
struck." Marine Corps Maj. Mike Snyder, a spokesman for NORAD, echoed
Myers in a Sept. 15 Boston Globe story, which stated: "[T]he command
did not immediately scramble any fighters even though it was alerted
to a hijacking 10 minutes before the first plane.slammed into the
first World Trade Center tower... The spokesman said the fighters
remained on the ground until after the Pentagon was hit..." U.S.
inaction was all the more astonishing because the same story had
Snyder admitting that "fighters routinely intercept aircraft."
So why were no fighters dispatched to intercept planes on an
extraordinary day like Sept. 11? Within days the story changed and it
turned out that two F-15 fighters had in fact been scrambled from
Otis Air National Guard Base in Cape Cod, MA. Whether this took place
before or after the first tower was struck is not clear. In any case
it was too late to make a difference. When the second tower was hit
the fighters were still 70 miles from Manhattan. We also learned that
two F-16 fighters had been scrambled from Langley Air Force Base to
try to intercept Flight 77, but they also arrived too late. In fact,
they only took off from Langley two minutes before the Boeing 757
smashed into the Pentagon.
There are a number of problems with this story. In the first place,
45 minutes had elapsed from the time the air traffic controllers lost
contact with Flight 77 and its crash into the Pentagon. On Sept. 15
The New York Times reported: "Flight 77.would have been visible on
the F.A.A.'s radar system as it reversed course in the Midwest.to fly
back to Washington. The radars would have observed it even though its
tracking beacon had been turned off."
There is an even more troubling question. Why were the fighters
dispatched from Langley, more than 130 miles from the Pentagon,
rather than Andrews Air Force Base-a mere 10 miles away? Early media
reports suggested that there were no available aircraft at Andrews
that day. (3)
This is bizarre to say the least. First, if there were no fighter
aircraft available that day at Andrews, how did they miraculously
make their appearance over the DC sky after the Pentagon was struck?
Yet this is what NBC reported on Sept. 11, as did other news outlets.
Moreover, Andrews AFB is responsible for air defense around
Washington. The DC Air National Guard is based there, which is
equipped with F-16s. The 113th Wing is based there. According to the
Andrews website: "Training for air combat and operational airlift for
national defense is the 113th's primary mission. However, as part of
its dual mission, the 113th provides capable and ready response
forces for the District of Columbia in the event of a natural
disaster or civil emergency." You can't get more emergency than Sept.
11! (4)
Then there is the mystery of United Flight 93. In the Seattle Times
of Sept. 16, Maj. Gen. Paul Weaver, director of the Air National
Guard, is quoted as saying that "[n]o Air National Guard or other
military planes were scrambled to chase the fourth hijacked airliner,
United Airlines Flight 93." No military planes were scrambled!
Remember, this plane came crashing down in Pennsylvania almost an
hour and a half after the first tower was struck.
Damage control was once again in operation. The Boston Herald of
Sept. 15 had Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz announcing "that
the Air Force was tracking the hijacked plane that crashed in
Pennsylvania on Tuesday after other airliners slammed into the
Pentagon and World Trade Center and had been in a position to bring
it down if necessary." So why was it not brought down? Or at the very
least intercepted? Three key buildings had been attacked. And there
is still no emergency! (5)
Happily, the war against the Taliban managed to push these questions
out of the papers. For now. (6)
(c) NY Press, 2001 * Reprinted for Fair Use Only
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1) For map of Flight 77's probable path, and the probable timetable,
go to http://www.emperors-clothes.com/images/maptime.htm
2) See, 'Guilty for 9-11: Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld,' at http://emperors-
clothes.com/indict/indict-1.htm
3)For map showing distance from Pentagon to Andrews, go to
http://www.emperors-clothes.com/indict/andrewsmap.htm
4) "9-11 Update Since 'Guilty For 9-11: Bush, Rumsfeld, Myers'" at
http://emperors-clothes.com/indict/indictupdate.htm
5) See to 'Mr. Cheney's Cover Story' at http://emperors-
clothes.com/indict/indict-2.htm
6) See 'Gaping Holes in the 'CIA vs. bin Laden' Story' at
http://emperors-clothes.com/news/probestop-i.htm | |
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| Lets look at more of what bush/cheney are up to |
Posted 12-17-2001 16:03 |
t r u t h o u t | Sunday December 16, 2001
Radical in the White House
by Marc Ash
George W. Bush has embarked on perhaps the most radical course of any
president in US history. Without consulting or even informing
Congress, Mr. Bush this week terminated the landmark 1972
Antiballistic Missile Treaty that has been the cornerstone of global
nuclear arms control for three decades. And that was just for
openers. While the entire country was obediently watching the Osama
bin Laden video Mr. Bush was quietly invoking for only the third time
in U.S. history Powers of Executive Privilege.
Surprised? Don't be. Amidst the chaos, destruction and distraction of
the past year Mr. Bush has set about, by "whatever means necessary,"
reshaping America to conform to a vision that is -- his to know --
and ours to find out. A fundamental redefinition of the entire U.S.
tax structure, fast track authority to unilaterally formulate U.S.
trade agreements world-wide, plans to privatize social security, a
sweeping overhaul of the entire U.S. justice system... and this is
only the ninth month.
Any one of these social and political developments in years gone by
would have set off a whirlwind of controversy. Today, while TV
broadcast news keeps the nation transfixed on the hunt for bin Laden,
Mr. Bush is presiding over a truly radical 180 degree reversal of
America's fortune. In little more than a year we have gone from
enjoying peace and the most prosperous economy in our history, to a
nation plunged into war, recession and fear. This is a nation being
transformed before our very eyes.
Democratic resistance to the Bush agenda is not surprising, but to
put into perspective the enormity of these events, consider the
reaction from many prominent republicans: Dan Burton, the Republican
Chairman of the powerful House Ways and Means Committee, said in
reaction to Mr. Bush's invocation of Executive Privilege, "This is
not a monarchy." Arch Republican conservative New York Times
columnist William Safire titled his essay on the subject of Mr.
Bush's order authorizing secret military tribunals: "Seizing
Dictatorial Power." Senate Republican Stalwart Arlen Specter titled
his Op-Ed in the New York times; "Questioning the President's
Authority."
Questioning the President's Authority indeed, now might be a very
good time -- while the opportunity still exists.
Marc Ash | Radical in the White House
http://www.truthout.com/12.17A.Radical.WH.htm
Saudis Say : No Evidence
http://www.truthout.com/12.17B.Saudis.No.htm
The White House Connection : Saudi 'Agents' Close Bush Friends
http://www.truthout.com/12.17C.Saudi.Friends.htm | |
| JK from Chemtrail and Company III |
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| FX |
Posted 12-18-2001 03:45 |
Indeed so.
I have heard these people called by many names
in various times: The Dark Mentalists, The X
Group, The Masters of Illusion, The Order...
They are high adepts of the art of stage magic, or
illusionism. While you are enrapt with what the left
hand is doing, you are not watching the right hand
which has the dagger in it, ready to plunge into
your back.
For those who doubt the technology exists to fake
things like the Usama "smoking gun" video, go to
the cinema, and watch "The Lord of The Rings"
when it debuts.
Ever watch the film, Gladiator?
Actor Oliver Reed died part way thru the filming, so
the FX lab just overlaid a computer generated
image of his head speaking the lines onto the
body of his stunt double, and duplicated his voice
electronically...
Uncle Sugar has BOTH access to the technology
to fake nonsense like the Usama video, AND the
motivation to do so, to cover his own tail for his
crimes. He can do MUCH better than this. The
flaws in the tape are deliberate. It is a simple test
of the effectiveness of the programming system
which has been in effect for some years now to
control the American sheepole, and an ongoing
sampling of how dumbed-down and credulous
they have become, nothing more.
Al | |
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| ts from Chemtrail and Company III |
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| let me throw... |
Posted 12-19-2001 07:01 |
this thought in their chief...
what is wrong with hunting down these people who have and continue to perform violent acts on innocent civilians..?
It used to be a everyday *thing* with me and my 4 year old son, that he went and got the mail at noon...hey we don't do that anymore...that wonderful chore of life was taken from me and my son....and yes sir... I'm a bit bitter about it....
irreguardless of the implication that set-forth these events, I support the war and our boys and girls fighting...if it makes it safer here...
semper fi....
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| JK from Chemtrail and Company III |
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| That's the whole deal |
Posted 12-19-2001 13:19 |
You need to get the people responsible, and they
aren't in Afganistan, they aren't the patsys trotted
out by the media propaganda arm of the US
Government either.
One of the intents of the 9/11 Operation was
psychological warfare, just as you describe, it was
intended to transform America and it has, but so
called "terrorists" didn't plan the script, nor carry it
out. No matter how many people worldwide "our
boys" kill (unjustly), it will NEVER bring back
"things as they were". It isn't intended to. The
Republic is dead and the American Empire is now
growing, as Rome did. THAT is the goal, not
making ordinary Americans like you and me safer.
This is straight out of "The Prince", and 1984...
The best you can do now is take care of yourself
and family as well as you can, it is going to be a
ROUGH ride from here on out.
Al | |
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